Olympics 2024 - discussion thread

[Bellum_Romanum]

I think the situation is a bit sad also but the problem between Chinese people and Japanese people clearly haven't been resolved. That said although Japanese girls look cute and innocent on the outside, that's not who they are deep inside. If Ma Long married her, he'd be in big trouble right now.

I dated a Japanese girl and she was nice and very naive to a fault. She was actually sexually assaulted by a South Korean after he essentially drugged her and then he did his thing on her. I felt angry and sorry for her when she told me this incident and she wanted to gauge my reaction and opinion of her would change knowing she's been through such ordeal. I also asked her if she's aware about her country's military atrocities against many Asian countries especially against China and Chinese people and unfortunately she's ALSO CLUELESS about the extent of the crimes perpetrated by then Imperial Japan which has not been corrected through the continuous omission of real history

 

[dingyibvs]

I think the problem isn't just visiting the shrine, but honoring the dead people there. Kasumi Ishikawa and Tomokazu Harimoto prayed in front of the shrine. Maybe they didn't really care much and just treat it as a ritual but Chinese people have a reason to be pissed. There is a reason why the Japanese TV station filmed those two praying at that shrine, it definitely wasn't just a coincidence.

I think we should give these Japanese athletes a break. With the history book changes in Japan the past ~20 years, the limited education these professional athletes have, and the generally nationalist lean of many sports associations, I doubt they really understand the history behind a lot of these shrines, especially the less prominent ones. Take Hayata for example, she said her reason for visiting the Kamimaze museum is to appreciate the value of life, which is in line with at least the museum's advertised purpose of emphasizing the value of life by showing the wasteful suicide runs of young kamikaze pilots.

Netizens would be right to educate her and Ishikawa/Harimoto/etc. on the history, but probably shouldn't lash out at them since they're unlikely to be trying to be militant or willfully ignorant.

 

[vincent]

I think we should give these Japanese athletes a break. With the history book changes in Japan the past ~20 years, the limited education these professional athletes have, and the generally nationalist lean of many sports associations, I doubt they really understand the history behind a lot of these shrines, especially the less prominent ones. Take Hayata for example, she said her reason for visiting the Kamimaze museum is to appreciate the value of life, which is in line with at least the museum's advertised purpose of emphasizing the value of life by showing the wasteful suicide runs of young kamikaze pilots.

Netizens would be right to educate her and Ishikawa/Harimoto/etc. on the history, but probably shouldn't lash out at them since they're unlikely to be trying to be militant or willfully ignorant.

Because Japanese history education is a total whitewash (based on what I know), Japanese are totally unaware of the horrendous crimes committed by their forefathers. All those shrines and "museums" reinforce the whitewashing and make the visitors think Japs are the victims of WWII, or at least make them think Imperial Japan did nothing wrong. Most of the people in power today are remnants and descendants of Imperial Japan's officials and elites. They are driving Japan toward confrontation with China with the support or at least apathy from the populace and that can be disastrous for both Japan and China.

Other countries can't force the Japanese government to change their history books. However, by punishing any Japanese celebrities economically for visiting those "shrines" and "museums", there is a chance the publicities will make at least some Japanese aware of the crimes committed by their forefathers the Japanese elites try so hard to cover up.

 

[Rank Amateur]

Twenty20 cricket is a new inclusion for the 2028 Los Angeles Olympics. India are the reigning T20 World Cup champions and are good prospects to pick up a medal there. While hoping for a respectable performance from my own nation, it would be wonderful to see Olympic medal-starved nations like Afghanistan or Bangladesh on the podium for cricket.

It would be funny if China put a ton/tonne of effort into cricket and fielded an internationally dominant team, just to f*ck with certain countries. One obstacle, though, is that China would be limited to recruiting from mathematics Ph.Ds, so the players could have some chance of understanding the rules.

 

[coolgod]

I think we should give these Japanese athletes a break. With the history book changes in Japan the past ~20 years, the limited education these professional athletes have, and the generally nationalist lean of many sports associations, I doubt they really understand the history behind a lot of these shrines, especially the less prominent ones. Take Hayata for example, she said her reason for visiting the Kamimaze museum is to appreciate the value of life, which is in line with at least the museum's advertised purpose of emphasizing the value of life by showing the wasteful suicide runs of young kamikaze pilots.

Netizens would be right to educate her and Ishikawa/Harimoto/etc. on the history, but probably shouldn't lash out at them since they're unlikely to be trying to be militant or willfully ignorant.

You sound like the reviews western visitors wrote after visiting that Kamikaze museum, which are filled with the remains of disgusting Japanese militarism fanatics.

Not only is the kamikaze museum name and shamed by Xinhua, it was also name and shamed by the Chinese FM spokeperson back in 2014.

华春莹明确表示给“神风特攻队”申遗的举动是美化日本军国主义侵略历史的尝试，实质上是在挑战世界反法西斯战争的成果和战后的国际秩序。日本的所作所为与联合国教科文组织维护世界和平的宗旨背道而驰，必将遭到国际社会的强烈谴责。

Hua Chunying made it clear that the move to apply for the World Heritage List of "Kamikaze" was an attempt to beautify Japan's history of militaristic aggression. It was essentially challenging the results of the World Anti-Fascist War and the post-war international order. Japan's actions run counter to UNESCO's purpose of safeguarding world peace and will surely be strongly condemned by the international community.

This museum despite having the word peace in its name, is nothing innocent. Most of Japan's neighbours and also the US are disgusted by it, hence why TBS had to cut that section of Hina Hayata's post olympics interview out.

Hina Hayata is cancelled in China, CCTV removed all footage of her, even Korean players also unfollowed her. The other two Japanese atheletes Kasumi Ishikawa and Tomokazu Harimoto might still be redeemable in China.

 

[coolgod]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1824260462810185820

Intellectual disability also qualifies to the Paralympic games.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1822746471625630031

Pilloried breakdancer Raygun says online hate has been devastating​

Aug 15 (Reuters) - Australian breakdancer Rachael Gunn said the backlash she has received since she competed at the Paris Olympics has been devastating, and pleaded for privacy for her family and friends.
"I really appreciate the positivity, and I'm glad I was able to bring some joy into your lives. That's what I hoped," Gunn, who is known as B-girl Raygun, said in an Instagram post on Thursday.
"I didn't realise that that would also open the door to so much hate which has, frankly, been pretty devastating."

Gunn was lambasted online and in mainstream media after she lost all three of her round robin battles in Paris, where breaking made its Olympic debut.
"Well, I went out there and I had fun -- I did take it very seriously. I worked my butt off preparing for the Olympics and I gave my all. Truly," Gunn said.

 

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[Dolcevita]

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She singlehandedly killed any remnant of "BreakDancing" from ever becoming a serious sports.

 

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She singlehandedly killed any remnant of "BreakDancing" from ever becoming a serious sports.

“Now this is break dancing!”