Olympics 2024 - discussion thread

[sndef888]

China really performed poorly in track and field though, just as before, only 1 gold in women's race walking, while US has 14 golds, and 34! medals in total

China needs to force track to follow the same rules as other sports.

China is so often limited to 2 athletes per competition while the US is allowed to send literally everyone they can find.

 

[Knight Kien]

Maybe France will rig the game against America, but most like it'll be the other way around. Oh, well. China still wins with Hong Kong. Ahahaha PAX SINICA!

 

[TOKYO DRIFT ABC]

China needs to force track to follow the same rules as other sports.

China is so often limited to 2 athletes per competition while the US is allowed to send literally everyone they can find.

Each country can send a maximum of 3 athletes per individual event, provided all three athletes have met the qualification standard set by World Athletics. If fewer than three athletes meet the standard, only those who qualify can compete

 

[manqiangrexue]

Didn't they also edge out the Chinese gymnast in women's uneven bars?

Oh yeah, that's right... it's actually balance beam. That one didn't piss me off because they used an actual woman in a woman's event so I forgot about it! I read that it's their first ever so many times I just assumed that to be true.

Then we are at least looking at a tie of 40 golds each with US winning via silver tiebreakers.

It's was a close fight though.

That's what it looks like right now. But hey, even if we tie and lose on silvers, who's national anthem was player the most at these games? Chinas! Because we got 2 more from Hong Kong! You didn't think that would happen a week ago, did you?

I mean they could have just one more gold in swimming, gymnastics or even speed climbing and China would have won.

Yeah yeah, the US has lots of regrets too, especially the one where that dickhead refused to share gold for jumping.

Notice how America is so close now when they ONLY got 8 medals in swimming.

We completed negated those with our 8 gold diving sweep and we got 2 more from our swimming.

Thats why whoever wins swimming in this race gets it all.

This contradicts with what you just said. It was almost not the case; just 1 small difference anywhere and China's golds would have topped the chart. If Hong Kong were counted together with us, which will be the case in the future, that wouldn't have been the case. If the US loses women's basketball somehow, that would not be the case.

 

[dandelion clock]

China needs to force track to follow the same rules as other sports.

China is so often limited to 2 athletes per competition while the US is allowed to send literally everyone they can find.

but I do hope that I can say, that I should have more faith in those youngsters of the 2000s or even 2010s, they are born into much better life conditions than our generations, most of my 90s peers especially in the countryside grew up without even milk to begin with.......

 

[TOKYO DRIFT ABC]

China really performed poorly in track and field though, just as before, only 1 gold in women's race walking, while US has 14 golds, and 34! medals in total

To compete with the U.S. in medal count, they will have to compete in Athletics and Swimming. The fact that China and the U.S. are competing for the gold medal shows that the total number of medals is not necessarily proportional to the number of gold medals, but in any case, a higher total number means that there are more chances for gold medals.

 

[kentchang]

If they tie, US loses on the narrative. Western press can either portray the US as coming from behind and caught up with China in the very final dramatic event OR the US, expected to win the most golds but have to settle for a draw. The first sounds much better but implicitly it suggests China is peer competition, the US as the underdog, and matching China is a badge of honor. This is clearly a historical Olympics for China second only to 2008 with the two countries even on neutral ground. The Greeks only had champions and everyone else. Placement is for wimps. US has to live with China being viewed as an equal for the next EIGHT years since US will be the host country next time and whatever US does in LA will be heavily discounted. Congratulations to China on achieving Gold parity, getting close to 2008's medal counts, having so many memorable breakthroughs in a single Game. Cannot write a better yet still believable script.

Just this year Chinese children achieved parity in protein intake with the US and their height increase has been the fastest in the world in the past decade. Social changes and public health improvements move at generational speed (i.e. a step, rather than continuous function) so for this to happen in 2024 is unsurprising to sociologists. This bodes very well for the Chinese athletes competing in the 2040 Olympics and beyond. I work in New York and our 2024 Summer Interns just finished last Friday. I can see the night'n'day difference from the 1990's. The confidence, composure, and fearlessness in them (to be fair, most of them are from MIT and the Ivies so the sample is skewed). China's '10 generation will dominate for sure. Having breakthroughs are nice (it means we are not quite there yet) but to be shocked and disappointed when China loses (like in Table Tennis or Diving today) is much better.

 

[PandaAI]

China achieving 40 golds away from home Olympics is a big result. Many breakthroughs in different sports even getting a silver or bronze bodes well for future development. China has huge upside.

 

[Randomuser]

China achieving 40 golds away from home Olympics is a big result. Many breakthroughs in different sports even getting a silver or bronze bodes well for future development. China has huge upside.

For me it's Meng Lingzhe winning heavyweight Greco Roman wrestling Bronze and Gigachad winning heavyweight weightlifting Gold. And of course Pan Zhanle winning both 100m freestyle and the medley as well.

All the above are big ass guys. It blows a whole in westoids saying Chinese can't compete at heavyweights. Now they will have to change the goalposts to cope.

 

[kentchang]

To compete with the U.S. in medal count, they will have to compete in Athletics and Swimming. The fact that China and the U.S. are competing for the gold medal shows that the total number of medals is not necessarily proportional to the number of gold medals, but in any case, a higher total number means that there are more chances for gold medals.

Swimming yes but to excel in track is very tough. In 2008, China put emphasis on rowing events and that strategy paid off. China's swimming program is in very good shape already. Women gymnastics must pivot towards strength. As important is to expand the influence in the different sporting federations and rule-making bodies.