Olympics 2024 - discussion thread

manqiangrexue

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3 female finalists and 2 semi with only 1 entry eliminated so far (57kg), is amazing.
66kg we're in the finals after beating Chinese Taipei. For the gold, we gotta fight Mr. I'm-a-woman-and-if-you-don't-like-that-you-can-suck-my-dick.

And now we are Silver for the 60kg, lost to Ireland, the defending Olympic champion on 4-1 split decision. We have never gotten a gold in women's boxing at the Olympics before. This is our 5th Silver.
 
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siegecrossbow

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Since I live in Republic of Ireland. Here's an article about the Chinese opponent of the Irish fighter by the main Irish broadcaster.
RTE news : Donovan: 'Incredible' Yang a tough fight for Harrington

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You’d always want to play up the opponent before the bout though. If you lose, you lost to someone strong. If you win, you beat someone strong.
 

Iracundus

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I'm cases where Chinese athletes win both the silver and gold, I believe the silver medalist should receive same treatment as the gold medalist.

What treatment do you mean? I seem to recall seeing something that for the 2008 Olympics for example, Chinese medalists got an award of money or house or some other material rewards (depending on what medal). Is that still the case?

I know the HK gold medalist Vivian Kong will get $9 million HKD from the HK Jockey Club as reward for example.
 
What treatment do you mean? I seem to recall seeing something that for the 2008 Olympics for example, Chinese medalists got an award of money or house or some other material rewards (depending on what medal). Is that still the case?
Well, I was referring more to that their achievement should be equally celebrated and admired/respected by the Chinese people as the gold medalist.
 

henrik

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What treatment do you mean? I seem to recall seeing something that for the 2008 Olympics for example, Chinese medalists got an award of money or house or some other material rewards (depending on what medal). Is that still the case?

I know the HK gold medalist Vivian Kong will get $9 million HKD from the HK Jockey Club as reward for example.

She also gets a new job at the HK Jockey Club.

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PandaAI

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Good to see Global Times hammering this issue. Americans have opened a can of worms by accusing China and WADA of covering up and now America’s own shameful doping history is coming to light.
 

Lethe

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In the case of Shayna Jack if I recall correctly one of the excuses it was blamed on someone in the Australian swimming organization giving her "by accident" the PED that was found in her system to claim how she was innocent. When they accuse Chinese swimmers, it because it's accused of being systematic by Chinese hence why all of them are considered guilty whether they tested positive or not. Someone in the Australian swimming authority gives their athlete a PED so they can say they didn't know it happened and no one assumes it's only just the one...?

Shayna Jack returned an AAF for a prohibited substance. Australia's NADO, Sports Integrity Australia, imposed a provisional suspension pending investigation, and subsequently recorded an ADRV against her with a four-year suspension. Jack then appealed in the first instance to the Court of Arbitration for Sport, claiming unintentional exposure via contamination, and a sole arbitrator reduced her period of suspension to two years. WADA and SIA together appealed this reduction in penalty to the full CAS tribunal which dismissed their appeal and sustained the reduced penalty.

In the case of the TMZ 23, CHINADA recorded 28 AAFs from 23 swimmers for a prohibited substance. In short order CHINADA came to the view that environmental contamination was the most likely explanation. No provisional suspensions were imposed during CHINADA's investigation and, because it closed with no ADRV recorded or sanctions imposed, these AAFs were not immediately "broadcast" to the world outside WADA and World Aquatics (then FINA). WADA and World Aquatics considered appealing CHINADA's lack of sanction for the athletes to CAS, but after extensive deliberation and consultation with both CHINADA and external experts, chose not to do.

In the one case, both Sports Integrity Australia and WADA pursued a lengthy sanction against an Australian athlete and continued to advocate for that sanction before CAS. In the other, CHINADA chose not to sanction the Chinese athletes and WADA and World Aquatics chose not to appeal that decision. I am not suggesting that the decisions taken in the latter case by CHINADA or WADA or World Aquatics were necessarily wrong, only that these cases took very different pathways through the anti-doping system that mitigate against using Jack as an example of differential or biased treatment of Chinese vs. western athletes.

These are complex issues and I think we should try to reside in the realm of facts to the extent that it is possible to do so. On the one hand we have American figures convinced that China is running a mass doping program and that WADA and World Aquatics have been compromised by Chinese influence to the extent that they are unwilling or unable to do anything about it, and on the other hand we have Chinese figures convinced that WADA, World Aquatics, ITA, etc. are instruments of western imperialism seeking to undermine China at every turn. In the middle we have a complex assortment of facts and considerations that do not play nicely with either of these narratives.
 
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