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shen

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Police officer beaten unconscious by rioters.

The restrain exercised by HK police is amazing. By Ferguson standard, live fire is justified in that situation.

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AssassinsMace

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The US media is reporting nothing but the propaganda from the Occupy protestors. I especially love how politicians and the media are reporting China has reacted excessively. These protestors are complete political amateurs. Remember when they were bragging how they weren't violent and didn't destroy property like other protestors around the world? I said early on that was naïve to make such a statement because it's going to be a different tune when they don't get what they want. And look at them now... And these devoid of conscious college students don't look at their rich mommies and daddies property investments as contributing to the very problems of expensive housing and other things they complain about.

The British are angry that their MPs are being denied entry into Hong Kong. How about China sending these Occupy protestors on a one way trip to Great Britain. And China can do what I read about some American freed from being a hostage in the Middle East where the US government charged him for the plane ride home.
 

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Ottaway, a senior member of Cameron's Conservative party, was told on Friday by China's deputy ambassador that eight lawmakers from his committee would not receive visas for a planned trip in a couple of weeks.
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Ottaway told AFP: "...we've got every right to ascertain whether China is complying with its undertakings."
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"They don't like criticism in China and I think if you're going to show a commitment to democracy, which they have done in Hong Kong, you've got to accept that democracy entails constructive criticism and they should actually learn to take it," he said.
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Cameron's official spokesman told reporters Monday that it was "mistaken" and "counter-productive" to block the lawmakers. "It only serves to amplify concerns about the situation in Hong Kong," he said. "As a co-signatory of the Joint Declaration, the UK does have a legitimate concern and interest in the way that treaty is implemented.
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Ottaway, meanwhile, said he thought that the many international banks and financial services firms based in Hong Kong would be "very concerned" at what has happened. "I'm pretty sure businesses there will be raising an eyebrow and actually beginning to wonder whether it might be better to be relocating to Singapore rather than staying," he added.

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Actually, every country has the right to deny anyone else visas on grounds they deem fit, so it is a rather strange statement they're making, unless there was some kind clause in the original joint declaration or basic law that gave provision or exemption for such visits.

If these MPs really want to start escalate their position they're obviously free to bring it up to Cameron and see if he has the stomach for a fight.
 

MwRYum

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Actually, every country has the right to deny anyone else visas on grounds they deem fit, so it is a rather strange statement they're making, unless there was some kind clause in the original joint declaration or basic law that gave provision or exemption for such visits.

If these MPs really want to start escalate their position they're obviously free to bring it up to Cameron and see if he has the stomach for a fight.

The fact that the British upheld the licence to sell tear gas grenades, amongst other weapons and equipments, to HK law enforcement agencies tells you where the British government really stands, and especially when the London Police crackdown on the Westminster protesters with such force and efficiency.

And truly, those parliament MPs really have no free pass to anywhere, neither does the Joint Declaration provided any ground for them to do so, thus Beijing has every right as a sovereign nation to slam the door on them, and it's better to do it now than having those so-called "gentlemen" rode their long plane rides to HK, then being denied entry.

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You can't compare protesters breaking windows in front of a crowd of reporters for their benefit with rioting and arson. And thank god the Kong Hong police understand that as well. Rolling in the PLA and any heavier handed response plays into their narrative. It will help the movement at a time when it's losing steam.



That's not something you should be proud about emulating.

It's very clear which side you are on, as do I, so let us be brutally honest about this...
1. Obviously you've either turned a blind eye towards the kind of fascist lingo they flung at anyone who disagree with them, or that you can't read Chinese so you don't know. Should they in English and I quote them here, it'd be more than enough to get me banned here, that's how bad things are from Day 1, T-hour.

2. Which is the reason why Beijing, amidst this coloured revolution (mind you, this insurgency has no name at first, it was the Western media outlets like CNN and Time coined "Umbrella Revolution" on Day 1, and then the insurgents blissfully picks it up) did next to nothing overtly; and thanks to the very participants who also behind the "anti-locust movement" early this year, they've done the work for Beijing (if not more), so much so that mainland popular opinion has been alienated long since this insurgency began, now they not only take up Beijing's stance, and simply watch HK tearing itself apart. Yes, your insurgency failed to get traction in Mainland China, the ultimate goal of those who instigates it.

What's more, with the insurgency losing steam, they complained it's getting boring, so they - and I to be honest - hoped that during the last Sunday's clash they'd storm the PLA Garrison HQ just across the street from the GovHQ. Now that'd be a real game changer! Well, I guess we can't expect street thugs upgraded into qualified revolutionaries.

3. That's because that's the "international standard" they've been yabbering day in and out, and when you're one of those citizens who've to live up with the negative effect of the insurgency and the instigators proclaim they'd never quit for anything short of total victory, what are you going to do if you're not one of them? If you can't grab a gun and join a militia to battle them for the streets, your only hope is the police give those brats a proper "education".
 
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Equation

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The US media is reporting nothing but the propaganda from the Occupy protestors. I especially love how politicians and the media are reporting China has reacted excessively. These protestors are complete political amateurs. Remember when they were bragging how they weren't violent and didn't destroy property like other protestors around the world? I said early on that was naïve to make such a statement because it's going to be a different tune when they don't get what they want. And look at them now... And these devoid of conscious college students don't look at their rich mommies and daddies property investments as contributing to the very problems of expensive housing and other things they complain about.

The British are angry that their MPs are being denied entry into Hong Kong. How about China sending these Occupy protestors on a one way trip to Great Britain. And China can do what I read about some American freed from being a hostage in the Middle East where the US government charged him for the plane ride home.


And the usual drum roll of "do as I said, not what I do" mantra keeps on rolling.

Washington (AFP) - The United States on Monday issued a fresh appeal to Beijing to exercise restraint in Hong Kong, adding it was concerned that British MPs had been barred from visiting the territory.

Washington had conveyed its concerns to both Beijing and the authorities in Hong Kong, she added.

"We continue to call for protesters to express their views peacefully and for Hong Kong authorities to exercise restraint," Psaki said.

Amid fears the semi-autonomous city could face further clashes after one of the most violent nights in the two-month-old pro-democracy protests, Psaki warned "any increase in aggression, we would be concerned about."

Hundreds clashed with police as they tried to storm Hong Kong government headquarters late Sunday. Dozens were left injured.

Protesters want fully free leadership elections in 2017, but Beijing has said all candidates must be vetted by a loyalist committee.

China has meanwhile refused to grant visas to a delegation of eight British MPs who wanted to visit Hong Kong, which was handed back by London to China in 1997.

Under the terms of the handover, Hong Kong was to enjoy a string of freedoms not granted to the Chinese mainland.

"We are concerned by reports that Beijing intends to deny entry to a group of British members of parliament to Hong Kong," Psaki said.

"We hope the members of parliament will be able to travel freely, as they wish."

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Doombreed

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...fascist...

...insurgents...

...insurgency...

...grab a gun and join a militia to battle them for the streets...

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“I know the opportunity for success is small, but this movement has shown that we are powerful and this place is ours,” said Manni Ng, 22, a pro-democracy demonstrator in Hong Kong.

Perhaps you would like to rethink the words you use to describe your fellow countryman.
 

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Perhaps you would like to rethink the words you use to describe your fellow countryman.

They are indeed powerful, even able to mass beat a police officer into unconsciousness when anywhere else on earth the officer would have shot in self defence. Remarkable.

And please, for every picture of a hopeful, peaceful protester standing with an easy going expression there are pictures and videos of less peaceful, more violent gatherings and encounters. For the pictures of lone protesters being surrounded by police there are also pictures of lone policemen facing hordes of protesters around them.

I wouldn't throw around words like fascists but touting a feel good rhetoric and a doe eyed movement is naive.
 
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plawolf

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Perhaps you would like to rethink the words you use to describe your fellow countryman.

A few cherry picked and sanitised propaganda pieces prove nothing.

Or do you still think that pretty young lady from the 'voice of Ukraine' propaganda viral video is representative of the government and movement that slaughtered their fellow countrymen by the thousands? :rolleyes:
 

SinoSoldier

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Perhaps you would like to rethink the words you use to describe your fellow countryman.

A (clearly carefully-prepped) photo speaks of nothing unless we get clear and unbiased accounts of what is really going on in HK. Unfortunately, such a feat is nothing short of impossible in light of media bias from both sides.
 
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