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Tam

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5G coding system was based on a technical paper by a Turkish prof on what's called polar coding. At the time the head of Huawei wireless, Mr. Wen Tong(?) ex Nortel guy, saw it on a tech journal, so he and Huawei put tons of money, ppl and resources into this and within 10 yrs Huawei had a huge success on 5G.

In articles by Spengler (Goldman) on atimes.com he sometimes/occasionally downplayed Chinese scientists' contributions, saying that over 50% are discovered by the 23 Huawei research centers around the world..anyway, you can't belittle either side, both Chinese and overseas ppl combined their knowledge and research.

A week ago when Mr. Ren mentioned about moving resources from Huawei USA to Huawei Russia, he said that Russia is a major theoretical center, and something that China is heading towards that level,too.

btw, stealth tech (f117 etc) was first described in mathematical modelling by a ussr scientist in a tech paper, then a Pentagon scientist saw that and further developed it lol


One picture. Russia's STEM graduates are nearly double the capita of the US.


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ansy1968

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One picture. Russia's STEM graduates are nearly double the capita of the US.


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Hi "Tam

Regarding Russia ,with half of the population of US are almost the same number of STEM graduates:cool::cool:. India a little bit skeptical especially about the quality of teaching and graduates. Wow Iran, this is a reason why the US is so afraid of and want to destroy it, it has the resources to be a major regional power.
 

machupicu

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Hi "Tam

Regarding Russia ,with half of the population of US are almost the same number of STEM graduates:cool::cool:. India a little bit skeptical especially about the quality of teaching and graduates. Wow Iran, this is a reason why the US is so afraid of and want to destroy it, it has the resources to be a major regional power.
According to various articles, many prof's in the US said that Iran's Sharif U has the best undergrad EE programs in the world. Apparently their curricula were developed based on those at MIT as many or most of its prof's are grads from MIT.
After obtaining BSc degree they then go to Stanford, MIT etc.. hence you can see many hi-tech (military) outputs produced by Iran.
 

galvatron

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Hi "Tam

Regarding Russia ,with half of the population of US are almost the same number of STEM graduates:cool::cool:. India a little bit skeptical especially about the quality of teaching and graduates. Wow Iran, this is a reason why the US is so afraid of and want to destroy it, it has the resources to be a major regional power.
China, Iran and Russia should cooperate to counter national security threats posed by the foreign hegemony.
 

ougoah

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According to various articles, many prof's in the US said that Iran's Sharif U has the best undergrad EE programs in the world. Apparently their curricula were developed based on those at MIT as many or most of its prof's are grads from MIT.
After obtaining BSc degree they then go to Stanford, MIT etc.. hence you can see many hi-tech (military) outputs produced by Iran.
China, Iran and Russia should cooperate to counter national security threats posed by the foreign hegemony.

This is a great idea on paper but extremely difficult to implement in real life. Cooperation means sharing a lot of things each three would rather hold secret. That's potentially a lot of industries and money. However, using perks to hire talented people is definitely a relatively unexplored option in China. Back in the day, Soviet engineers were hired but that's a few generations ago. Nowadays, Chinese companies can offer attractive deals for Iranian and eastern European scientists/engineers. Even Korea, Taiwanese, and Japanese engineers. The issue is there is no guarantee of performance even then and there are wayyyyy too much competition within Chinese themselves for companies to have explored these options. It is however a field for some innovative business practices when it isn't forced due to lacking domestic abilities e.g. Soviet engineers in the 1980s to 2000s.

What they should expand on is that Shenzhen model and find new ways of attracting more startups from around the world and create an even more appealing attraction for foreign talents. Chinese ones suffice more than enough. The competition for jobs and opportunities is second to none in China and many otherwise capable scientists and engineers often even find themselves out of work or looking abroad. Lot's of second and third rate talents going overseas along with the rare first rate ones.
 

ansy1968

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This is a great idea on paper but extremely difficult to implement in real life. Cooperation means sharing a lot of things each three would rather hold secret. That's potentially a lot of industries and money. However, using perks to hire talented people is definitely a relatively unexplored option in China. Back in the day, Soviet engineers were hired but that's a few generations ago. Nowadays, Chinese companies can offer attractive deals for Iranian and eastern European scientists/engineers. Even Korea, Taiwanese, and Japanese engineers. The issue is there is no guarantee of performance even then and there are wayyyyy too much competition within Chinese themselves for companies to have explored these options. It is however a field for some innovative business practices when it isn't forced due to lacking domestic abilities e.g. Soviet engineers in the 1980s to 2000s.

What they should expand on is that Shenzhen model and find new ways of attracting more startups from around the world and create an even more appealing attraction for foreign talents. Chinese ones suffice more than enough. The competition for jobs and opportunities is second to none in China and many otherwise capable scientists and engineers often even find themselves out of work or looking abroad. Lot's of second and third rate talents going overseas along with the rare first rate ones.
Hi ougoah

Cooperation is there if one of them had something to offer in return, of the three Russian and China can complement each other, Iran had a lot of potential, right now natural resources is what they can offer but they can leverage their human talent as well.
 

horse

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Notice the spin on the ball? Mainstream media reporting this.

No one dares ask the question, why was this course of action taken by the US authorities? Couldn't someone just phoned somebody, like a Chinese guy or girl, or a white guy or girl, and get some informed industry opinions?

Seemed like they went the the neigbourhood bar and asked the bartender on what to do for East Asian and integrated circuits for US policy.

Four more years! Lock her up! Lock her up! Lock her up! Four more years! Four more years!

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Morale of the story.

No one should be bellyaching about how the United States is doing this-and-that to China, like China is some sort of perpetual victim.

I will not use an obscenity, although that is the only proper response. To the whole darn shrill show. Haha! Everyone will know how we should feel. Yes.

Nothing personal, just business.

Just get on with it.

Let the chips fall where they may.

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Tam

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Hi "Tam

Regarding Russia ,with half of the population of US are almost the same number of STEM graduates:cool::cool:. India a little bit skeptical especially about the quality of teaching and graduates. Wow Iran, this is a reason why the US is so afraid of and want to destroy it, it has the resources to be a major regional power.

I don't know about graduates in India, their national problem is their brain drain where their best goes to somewhere else, like the USA.

Despite what others think --- and their constant portrayal as Russia like its a decaying country in a permanent state of Cold War decay, declining in math, sciences, technology and so on, its a very different picture.

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machupicu

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2021 will be an exciting year for China's semiconductor industries.

"This is a sector about to see explosive growth,” Alan Zhou, managing partner of Fujian-based chip investment fund An Xin Capital Co., told an industry forum last week. Because of China’s increasing demand and investment, this is an area that could create a “world-class Chinese chip giant.”

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