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As other members have pointed out, Trump administration's tech restrictions to China are a blessing in disguise. Without the driving force and pressure to develop domestic technologies, some Chinese companies are taking the easy route of buying readily available tech and focusing more on profit. In other words they are putting profit ahead of national interests, ironically that is what many U.S. companies are doing.
Had the West not placed a arms embargo on China, the present day PLA would look like that of India's: a mixed bag of foreign made equipment and a long list of domestic failures. High profile Indian military projects like the Arjun tanks and Tejas fighters are failures simply because they knew that they could buy readily available Russian / Western weapons so there was no sense of urgency and drive to self develop.
Now all that needs to happen is the collapse of the US dollar and then the USA will be thrown down into third world status for years to come. Hence all trump has accomplished is what he had set out to prevent, the end of the American empire
In4ser
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Yes, I wouldn't trust either Fox or CNN. Maybe MSNBC but I would need to cross-reference news with another organization like BBC or something to get a more full picture. Regardless of which side of the spectrum they are, these big news organization are both profit-making institutions that need to earn money for sponsors and shareholders. Therefore, their editors willl often directly influence what content their reports are allowed to publish.
However, it's isn't only the New Media at fault, but also Big Tech companies like Facebook and Google because they implement predictive algorithms on people's search results that can trap people's minds in a personal bubble. The AI software will try to generate clickbait guide people to whatever news and stories that interest the person and it typically reinforces whatever existing biases or prejudices they may have about an issue. More often than not the information is calculated in order to generate fear or outrage which can unintentionally guide people down the rabbit hole of radicalization.
Huawei Suddenly Strikes At Google With New ‘Fight’ To Beat Android
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"The world has been suffering for a long time,” rotating Huawei chairman Guo Ping told employees this week, referring to the lock Google has on the Android ecosystem. And so ended the executive silence on President Trump’s latest salvo, . Guo admitted the new sanctions would “cause certain difficulties… especially for high-end mobile phones,” but assured employees that “I believe we can solve them.”
The focus of Guo’s remarks was Huawei’s answer to the loss of Google from those mobile phones. Its alternative has been in the works since last year—part HarmonyOS operating system that can run across phones and other smart devices, but mostly the HMS replacement for Google Mobile Services, the apps and underlying services that drive the Android ecosystem. Huawei now has 600 million users on its ecosystem. This is a change that impacts all of those who stay with the brand.
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I write about security and surveillance.
"The world has been suffering for a long time,” rotating Huawei chairman Guo Ping told employees this week, referring to the lock Google has on the Android ecosystem. And so ended the executive silence on President Trump’s latest salvo, . Guo admitted the new sanctions would “cause certain difficulties… especially for high-end mobile phones,” but assured employees that “I believe we can solve them.”
The focus of Guo’s remarks was Huawei’s answer to the loss of Google from those mobile phones. Its alternative has been in the works since last year—part HarmonyOS operating system that can run across phones and other smart devices, but mostly the HMS replacement for Google Mobile Services, the apps and underlying services that drive the Android ecosystem. Huawei now has 600 million users on its ecosystem. This is a change that impacts all of those who stay with the brand.
Hendrik_2000
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Slowly but surely Huawei is replacing google hit app one by one Seem like they have some success So cutting the google mobile service is not the end of the world as some msm might believe. Via Emperor
Huawei Finally Launches Brilliant Google Alternative
David Phelan
TomTom Go Navigation arrives on Huawei AppGallery. TOMTOM
September 5 update below. This post was first published on September 3 2020.
Huawei’s latest devices have no access to Google’s Play Store, instead relying on its own store, called Huawei AppGallery. This means many crucial apps aren’t available. Now, an important arrival means one area with a big gap – navigation – suddenly has enough apps to make AppGallery a potent alternative.
This week, TomTom Go Navigation launched on AppGallery. This means it’s now available on Apple’s App Store and Google’s Play Store as well as on Huawei phones.
September 5 update. This week saw the opening of the IFA electronics show which takes place in Berlin but is mostly online this year, At the opening day, Walter Ji, who is President of Huawei’s Consumer Business Group, Europe, delivered a (virtual) keynote speech – you can see it here, it lasts 26 minutes.
The content of the speech chimed with Huawei’s commitment to make the AppGallery a credible alternative to iOS and Android. It was primarily designed to reassure what the company described as “the millions of European customers who voluntarily choose and trust Huawei’s technology”. Why is this important? Well, if that commitment is there for Europe, then customers outside China are being strongly supported, Huawei is saying.
The AppGallery, the keynote mentioned, is now the third largest app marketplace – well, that’s hardly a surprise and there’s a pretty big gap between numbers two and three. All it really means is it’s overtaken Amazon’s app store. Peter Gauden, Head of WEU EcoSystem Marketing, contributed to the keynote and explained that more than 5,000 new apps were being added each month. Which is more than might have been expected. Globally, there were 184 billion downloads of AppGallery apps in the first half of the year, though that’s not broken down by nation. Gauden also shared the detail that there are 33 million monthly active users of AppGallery in Europe out of 460 million worldwide.
Globally registered developers now total 1.6 million, Gauden said, which is a 76% increase over the first half of 2019.
He also said that Petal Search has proved very popular, with more than 1 million European users. Set against the number of European iPhone users, say, that’s not huge but here’s the thing: Petal Search, realistically, is only used by users of Huawei phones which don’t have full-fat Android on board, that is, phones from the Huawei Mate 30 onwards.
There was a strong commitment by Ji to research and development, including the claim (which is pretty powerful, assuming it’s true), that Huawei is the fifth biggest investor in R&D worldwide. It’s also the fifth on the 2019 EU Industrial R&D Investment Scoreboard. No, I’ve never heard of that scoreboard either, so I can’t judge what it means. But Huawei committed to invest an extra $100 billion in R&D over five years, back in 2018 and there was a confirmation that this was on track.
All of which seems to indicate one thing: if any company in the world could create a viable third app system, it would be Huawei – something that neither Microsoft nor Nokia were successful in doing. Nor BlackBerry, for that matter.
Huawei Mobile Services Core has 81,000 apps globally integrated with it, the keynote explained, which is important as that’s what’s on offer as an alternative to Google Mobile Services which underpins many apps such as Google Maps, for instance. And one of those 81,000 is TomTom Go Navigation…
As reported by fellow Forbes contributor Zak Doffman earlier in the year, AppGallery previously took a big step forward in mapping terms when the excellent Here WeGo Maps debuted on Huawei’s store.
Here WeGo offers special benefits such as offline use thanks to free downloads of country maps in advance. But using it offline means no traffic information, for instance.
And though Here WeGo has an impeccable pedigree – it began as Nokia Maps when the Finnish company bought NavTel – it has never reached critical mass.
TomTom, however, is an unquestionable big beast in the world of mapping with huge name recognition. It also has an offline setting, something that’s strikingly important for navigation apps, since you may well be using it abroad where roaming costs can be high. With TomTom Go Navigation, detailed 3D maps are stored on the phone.
TomTom specialities include moving lane guidance which helps drivers navigate intersections by indicating which lane is best. You can also customize maps by adding or deleting regions as needed.
The only downside is that TomTom Go Navigation, unlike Here WeGo and indeed Google Maps, is not free. There’s a 30-day free trial, after which it costs $12.99 per year, $8.99 for six months or $1.99 per month.
This is not TomTom’s first collaboration with Huawei. The company uses TomTom’s mapping solution in its Huawei Mobile Services kits, which developers can use – ride-share apps need mapping kits, for example. Those are not accessible to consumers, of course, but this app, based on the same mapping, is.
Oh, and that’s not the end of the story. Huawei’s own Maps app is coming and is being developed in conjunction with TomTom. It Huawei gets it right, it could diminish the loyalty to Google Maps decisively.
You can, of course, use Google Maps already, through a web browser, but that’s hardly the same. You can even download the app on to Huawei phones, but its features are not as comprehensive. No, the big change will come with Huawei Maps, but this week’s TomTom Go Navigation addition is a very welcome arrival which works flawlessly and has the best mapping in the business.
Huawei Finally Launches Brilliant Google Alternative
David Phelan
TomTom Go Navigation arrives on Huawei AppGallery. TOMTOM
September 5 update below. This post was first published on September 3 2020.
Huawei’s latest devices have no access to Google’s Play Store, instead relying on its own store, called Huawei AppGallery. This means many crucial apps aren’t available. Now, an important arrival means one area with a big gap – navigation – suddenly has enough apps to make AppGallery a potent alternative.
This week, TomTom Go Navigation launched on AppGallery. This means it’s now available on Apple’s App Store and Google’s Play Store as well as on Huawei phones.
September 5 update. This week saw the opening of the IFA electronics show which takes place in Berlin but is mostly online this year, At the opening day, Walter Ji, who is President of Huawei’s Consumer Business Group, Europe, delivered a (virtual) keynote speech – you can see it here, it lasts 26 minutes.
The content of the speech chimed with Huawei’s commitment to make the AppGallery a credible alternative to iOS and Android. It was primarily designed to reassure what the company described as “the millions of European customers who voluntarily choose and trust Huawei’s technology”. Why is this important? Well, if that commitment is there for Europe, then customers outside China are being strongly supported, Huawei is saying.
The AppGallery, the keynote mentioned, is now the third largest app marketplace – well, that’s hardly a surprise and there’s a pretty big gap between numbers two and three. All it really means is it’s overtaken Amazon’s app store. Peter Gauden, Head of WEU EcoSystem Marketing, contributed to the keynote and explained that more than 5,000 new apps were being added each month. Which is more than might have been expected. Globally, there were 184 billion downloads of AppGallery apps in the first half of the year, though that’s not broken down by nation. Gauden also shared the detail that there are 33 million monthly active users of AppGallery in Europe out of 460 million worldwide.
Globally registered developers now total 1.6 million, Gauden said, which is a 76% increase over the first half of 2019.
He also said that Petal Search has proved very popular, with more than 1 million European users. Set against the number of European iPhone users, say, that’s not huge but here’s the thing: Petal Search, realistically, is only used by users of Huawei phones which don’t have full-fat Android on board, that is, phones from the Huawei Mate 30 onwards.
There was a strong commitment by Ji to research and development, including the claim (which is pretty powerful, assuming it’s true), that Huawei is the fifth biggest investor in R&D worldwide. It’s also the fifth on the 2019 EU Industrial R&D Investment Scoreboard. No, I’ve never heard of that scoreboard either, so I can’t judge what it means. But Huawei committed to invest an extra $100 billion in R&D over five years, back in 2018 and there was a confirmation that this was on track.
All of which seems to indicate one thing: if any company in the world could create a viable third app system, it would be Huawei – something that neither Microsoft nor Nokia were successful in doing. Nor BlackBerry, for that matter.
Huawei Mobile Services Core has 81,000 apps globally integrated with it, the keynote explained, which is important as that’s what’s on offer as an alternative to Google Mobile Services which underpins many apps such as Google Maps, for instance. And one of those 81,000 is TomTom Go Navigation…
As reported by fellow Forbes contributor Zak Doffman earlier in the year, AppGallery previously took a big step forward in mapping terms when the excellent Here WeGo Maps debuted on Huawei’s store.
Here WeGo offers special benefits such as offline use thanks to free downloads of country maps in advance. But using it offline means no traffic information, for instance.
And though Here WeGo has an impeccable pedigree – it began as Nokia Maps when the Finnish company bought NavTel – it has never reached critical mass.
TomTom, however, is an unquestionable big beast in the world of mapping with huge name recognition. It also has an offline setting, something that’s strikingly important for navigation apps, since you may well be using it abroad where roaming costs can be high. With TomTom Go Navigation, detailed 3D maps are stored on the phone.
TomTom specialities include moving lane guidance which helps drivers navigate intersections by indicating which lane is best. You can also customize maps by adding or deleting regions as needed.
The only downside is that TomTom Go Navigation, unlike Here WeGo and indeed Google Maps, is not free. There’s a 30-day free trial, after which it costs $12.99 per year, $8.99 for six months or $1.99 per month.
This is not TomTom’s first collaboration with Huawei. The company uses TomTom’s mapping solution in its Huawei Mobile Services kits, which developers can use – ride-share apps need mapping kits, for example. Those are not accessible to consumers, of course, but this app, based on the same mapping, is.
Oh, and that’s not the end of the story. Huawei’s own Maps app is coming and is being developed in conjunction with TomTom. It Huawei gets it right, it could diminish the loyalty to Google Maps decisively.
You can, of course, use Google Maps already, through a web browser, but that’s hardly the same. You can even download the app on to Huawei phones, but its features are not as comprehensive. No, the big change will come with Huawei Maps, but this week’s TomTom Go Navigation addition is a very welcome arrival which works flawlessly and has the best mapping in the business.
China is working hard to decouple from US tech. It is very likely that we will enter into an era where the world is divided between two technology blocks (those using Chinese tech and those using US/western tech).
hi Petrolicious88,
From my opinion that's what the US wanted, they know they need to invest huge amount of money, talent and time ,a brilliant solution is concocted, why not borrow or co-opt their supposed allies tech as their own, since she is able to contribute a small but critical portion of the IC sector supply chain, she is using that to consolidate its preeminence, by bullying and threatening its allies with sanction and harnessing their technology. Its a win win solution for them, you control their technology ,have a say in its development and to whom to sell.
You can see how SK, Taiwan and Singapore is able to develop their IC sector and Japan is being curtail, cause small countries are not a threat and can be easily be control.
No, China is now moving to decouple from US technology. It didn’t want to in the beginning, but is now being forced to do it. When you are being chased, you run.
It can never trust US tech again. It can never find itself in a similar situation again where another country has a chokehold on critical technologies. There is no turning back from this. A Manhattan Project like national effort is now in motion to achieve self sufficiency.
Thanks to Trump and his China hawks, the world will be divided into two technology camps.