I agree.
From a societal standpoint, one of the biggest educational reforms would be increase the number of technical degrees (which have a shortage) and reduce the number of *softer* social sciences and arts degrees (which are oversupplied).
This would have the following major benefits.
1. More opportunities in those technical fields, which men gravitate to. That helps reduce the number of socio-economically disadvantaged men. At this time, the USA has far more females than males graduating from university with expensive state-subsidised degrees with little utility.
2. More technological advancements in society overall.
But will this happen given the identity politics of feminism (male oppression) versus male favouritism?
As a society, you ideally want happy pairing of 1 man and 1 woman, but such a situation is so much harder to achieve when many woman won't accept a lesser educated man.
Anyway, this is way off-topic now.
Perhaps an American society thread would be useful?
They just copied from Hong Kong's umbrella movement.There won't be a civil war , but there will be never ending protest, rioting, random killings. Blowback has happen in the past , and it is happening again. This ain't hk... View attachment 63198
Just to note is that even if SMIC is added to the blacklist like Huawei is, it doesn’t matter since China can supply and make the 14nm chips themselves and soon to 7nm by the end of 2020 and then 5nm after that and then sell to other countries around the world anyway. Considering that many countries are beginning to limit and even tax companies like Facebook and google and even more, the USA isn’t going to be able to innovate anytime soon with they way things are now. if Chinese technology is still good value for money, then many other countries would give no damn about an entity list should the USA really fall during and after the election. If the USA loses there world reserve dollar peg and then really go down into chaos after the election and if China is able to release the digital currency, they China will have more opportunities to move. Heck if China actually purchases a super conductor firm (I mean if the USA really goes into a depression those super conductor companies will do anything to make money, even move there operations to China even since who in heavens name would want there companies to be located in a Country that cannot even purchase or use there goods. Heck a lot of tech firms at that point would jump at the opportunity to make money and since may of these companies are not happy with trump (like the farmers that can no longer sell soy to China) and are waiting to see if Biden can help (he won’t) then eventually if these companies want to exist in a depression era, China is there future, not the USA that is gliding down to a path of ruin.Yes it's possible, Intel does "die shrinks" in its "tick-tock" model for chip development where they develop a new CPU architecture, then shrink it using the next node. i.e. Sandy Bridge family going from 32nm to 22nm. Intel has hit a roadblock at 14nm so they probably trying to slow down Asia just like zuckerberg did with Tiktok.
Problem is, if SMIC is sanctioned, Huawei might not even have access to 14nm.
Also, 14nm is atleast 1x larger than 7nm in terms of the size of the actual CPU and uses like 50% more power. (Based on my observations from AMD's transition from 14nm to 7nm)
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See here, they can fit 2x the transistors in roughly the same area by stepping down from 16nm to 7nm
It is not just China, but ever country would now be feeling vulnerable after US weaponise technology. Every country would be upgrading their own tech to be independent of US . Priority in R&D/innovations would be expected but being done quietly so as not to offend or to attract US attention. So no need to lecture other countries on their technologies.China is still not a strong innovator, with the bulk of its R&D spending going on short-term product development instead of basic research, according to a study released in November by the State Council’s policy think tank.
The study warned that the present level of basic research would not be able to support Beijing’s ambition of technological upgrade in the manufacturing sector.
Despite having an edge in terms of quantity, studies by Chinese researchers were not cited as often as the international average. The commercial value of was also low, with the revenue from Chinese intellectual property trade accounting for less than 5 per cent of the world’s total, the study said.
That point was underlined last week in the OECD’s Main Science and Technology Indicators report, which covered statistics up to 2018. The report said the US committed 2.8 per cent of its GDP to R&D expenditure, while Germany earmarked 3.1 per cent and Japan 3.3 per cent. Mainland China spent 2.1 per cent in the area for the same period, compared with Taiwan’s 3.5 per cent.
The contrast is even clearer when basic research spending is expressed as a percentage of GDP. The US commitment stood at 0.47 per cent in 2018, while China’s share was 0.12 per cent only.
The point here is not to denigrate China's efforts but to point out China still has a long way to go.
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Es ist nicht nur China, sondern jedes Land würde sich nach der US-Waffentechnologie verwundbar fühlen. Jedes Land würde seine eigene Technologie verbessern, um unabhängig von den USA zu sein. Eine Priorität bei F & E / Innovationen wäre zu erwarten, würde jedoch leise erfolgen, um die Aufmerksamkeit der USA nicht zu beleidigen oder zu erregen. Es ist also nicht nötig, andere Länder über ihre Technologien zu unterrichten.
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Do not worry at all about SMIC/China because there are solutions, be that new lines with SMEE machines and work with Samsung, Tokyo Electron..
There are 2 major problems: chip for 5G base station & Kirin chip for smartphone.
We have discussed about base station, that there IS a solution from within China!
But for high-end chip for smartphone, new rules block any solution from within China,right?
But Huawei said there is a solution:
"Guo Ping further said that the crackdown on Kirin chips will create some difficulties for the high-end mobile phone business, but believes it can be resolved."
Which means the solution is Extraordinary, and it points to a likelihood of using Samsung chip.. but then if they could do this it means that Samsung chip is manufactured using non-US line! So the next logical question/thing is: Kirin can also be done via that Samsung line, right?
All in all, there are solutions.
The other option to consider is: buying equipments from Tokyo Electron to complement or back-up Chinese equipments.
US can't block Samsung or Tokyo Electron because US has published the BIS rules and these 2 companies are not violating these rules.
Not sure about that though, because it seems to cover international business laws. Countries and non-US companies might build their own alliances. Also the above is sort of declaration of war, so China will retaliate against US companies inside China that do yearly sales there at $400 billions.The United States might likely soon pass a law imposing sanctions on any non Chinese company or entity that sells a list of items of to China and Chinese companies and entities that the United States does not want China to possess, even if those items are fully devoid of US content.
If that happens, it will be interesting to see how other countries that are part of the United States alliance system will react.
It is also interesting to see the affects that this will have on the stock market as well as the US economy given taht prevent there goods being sold is going to make any and every US base goods as being toxic and ultimately a security threat.The United States might likely soon pass a law imposing sanctions on any non Chinese company or entity that sells a list of items of to China and Chinese companies and entities that the United States does not want China to possess, even if those items are fully devoid of US content.
If that happens, it will be interesting to see how other countries that are part of the United States alliance system will react.
Do that and the USA runs the risk of making any US based technology as something toxic and not something anyone is going to buy since they will either sanction you if any can make anything better or they will spy on you anyway. Hence I do think that sooner or later, if China can make an alternative system that can allow for a bit more privacy, that will be attractive, especially to the European market (given how the US is not exactly winning them over with there sanctions and there wish to shove the US brand of cars down their throat and the middle east, south America and Africa given all the actions that the USA has done to them all this time. If the USA ends up isolating themselves completely, no one is going to buy any American based good since it is pretty clear that the US has lost the ability to innovate given the current climate. If they are starting to lose the ability to sanction Iran due to what happened at the UN, they are going to slowly lose the power to sanction in the future because progressively, the dollar is losing value. If the USA really does drop down to the level of a third world country, no sensible nation is going to want to listen to them in the near future since they have to pay back all there debts first and as everyone knows, they don't have the money to do that, not with all the money they have borrowed to fight there warsThe United States might likely soon pass a law imposing sanctions on any non Chinese company or entity that sells a list of items of to China and Chinese companies and entities that the United States does not want China to possess, even if those items are fully devoid of US content.
If that happens, it will be interesting to see how other countries that are part of the United States alliance system will react.
It is also interesting to see the affects that this will have on the stock market as well as the US economy given taht prevent there goods being sold is going to make any and every US base goods as being toxic and ultimately a security threat.
Do that and the USA runs the risk of making any US based technology as something toxic and not something anyone is going to buy since they will either sanction you if any can make anything better or they will spy on you anyway. Hence I do think that sooner or later, if China can make an alternative system that can allow for a bit more privacy, that will be attractive, especially to the European market (given how the US is not exactly winning them over with there sanctions and there wish to shove the US brand of cars down their throat and the middle east, south America and Africa given all the actions that the USA has done to them all this time. If the USA ends up isolating themselves completely, no one is going to buy any American based good since it is pretty clear that the US has lost the ability to innovate given the current climate. If they are starting to lose the ability to sanction Iran due to what happened at the UN, they are going to slowly lose the power to sanction in the future because progressively, the dollar is losing value. If the USA really does drop down to the level of a third world country, no sensible nation is going to want to listen to them in the near future since they have to pay back all there debts first and as everyone knows, they don't have the money to do that, not with all the money they have borrowed to fight there wars