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Adding info to this discussion, US will inevitably go thru modern version of brotherly physical conflicts within its continent.
It's mainly due to Inequalities in quality of life (econ,racism,health,future opportunities..) .you can't hv a stable country if 15% live below poverty line or 10% don't hv daily full meals..

As to Huawei and China, best to wait until after election..

Also as stated by Kishore Mahbubani, one of the big factors is the events of 9/11, where the whole country was wounded (physically,psychologically,psychically) and ppl began to question the country's identity, foreign & domestic policies..

emblem21 said:

Depending on how wide spread the riots are, it would be quite difficult to solve since the ensuring chaos will make no 2 sides to them, just everyone out for themselves. Hence really the end result is going to be similar with a lot of suffering and not many people in leadership being capable in handling the crisis (Trump fanning the flame to prevent an election taking place, Biden not being a very strong candidate and having no real solution other then printing money, which only serves to make the problem worse.)

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Hi emblem21,

Maybe a brief riot and small shooting but no major violence, What is special about the US, their institution are strong there is a self correcting mechanism that can deal with this kind of problem.

What Im afraid of is the division within the white community the half divide between the urban and rural folks. Here the catalyst for a civil war will emerged,After the 2020 election who ever won will only accelerate this division, Trumpism is alive in the rural America and the republican will always rely on the base for support, here the culture and identity war is being wage, you can see the slogan it us against them. Sane voices from both side of the aisle will be sideline and populism hardline leaders will emerge. What im saying is if you study the American civil war, It is not about freeing the slave, its about the division between industrial north and agricultural south that led to it.

In4ser said:

It's not going to be like a typical Civil War with armies of soldiers and clearly defined political borders. Rather it is going to be more similar to the

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where you have the slow collapse of the political, social, and economic cohesion into dysfunction. Polarized between the (Leftist) Populares and Optimates (Conservatives) both sides increasingly turned to violence such as rioting or the murder of political candidates to advocate their political agendas.

These past few months in the US seem to mirror those things as violence becomes more widespread in society with militant political gangs start appearing more often in protests and other political events as a show of force to protect and deter the other side. With both sides increasingly becoming more radicalized (thanks to the media sensationalism) and heavily armed, the likelihood of miscalculation and unintentional escalation increases.

I'm particularly concerned

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. A lot of people don't seem to understand why this is a turning point because it looks like the far-left has declared war on the far-right. Patriot Prayer, Proud Boys, and other far-right are going to look weak if they do not retaliate for the killing of on their own. Essentially we might just see the US turn into a giant gang turf war with random acts of terror like shootings or bombings of each other's peoples and neighborhoods. Since we've already had a few politicians and targeted and attacked in the past by domestic terrorism (e.g.

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), I can foresee the terrifying possibility of radical militant groups harassing voters to align to their political views during the 2020 election season. Friends and families have already been blocking each other based on political affiliation for sometimes but now its also being expressed on the streets.

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The big thing to note is that the USA today is a broadly middle-class society.
The middle-classes do not support violence or armed gangs, because they have too much to lose.

It is the lower-classes or other disaffected groups that use violence, because they have nothing to lose and no power to change things.

In4ser said:

It's not going to be like a typical Civil War with armies of soldiers and clearly defined political borders. Rather it is going to be more similar to the

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where you have the slow collapse of the political, social, and economic cohesion into dysfunction. Polarized between the (Leftist) Populares and Optimates (Conservatives) both sides increasingly turned to violence such as rioting or the murder of political candidates to advocate their political agendas.

These past few months in the US seem to mirror those things as violence becomes more widespread in society with militant political gangs start appearing more often in protests and other political events as a show of force to protect and deter the other side. With both sides increasingly becoming more radicalized (thanks to the media sensationalism) and heavily armed, the likelihood of miscalculation and unintentional escalation increases.

I'm particularly concerned

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. A lot of people don't seem to understand why this is a turning point because it looks like the far-left has declared war on the far-right. Patriot Prayer, Proud Boys, and other far-right are going to look weak if they do not retaliate for the killing of on their own. Essentially we might just see the US turn into a giant gang turf war with random acts of terror like shootings or bombings of each other's peoples and neighborhoods. Since we've already had a few politicians and targeted and attacked in the past by domestic terrorism (e.g.

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and

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), I can foresee the terrifying possibility of radical militant groups harassing voters to align to their political views during the 2020 election season. Friends and families have already been blocking each other based on political affiliation for sometimes but now its also being expressed on the streets.

As a Chinese-American, I'm terrified. Not only do we have to deal with the pandemic and economic recession but those two things may be subordinate issues to the social upheaval.

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have been on the rise even in my neighborhood and the fact that there's a growing risk of being collateral damage in a nationwide gang war between radical elements in Democratic and Republican parties is not something I'm looking forwards to.

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Hi In4ser,

I know we are deviating from the thread but need to ask you for a clear picture of what is real happening in the US. Is there a real divide in white AMerica community, If there is Im afraid the US is heading for a civil war. White American from my point of view had this entitlement and privilege ideas and are willing to fight for it.

This is what I like about us Chinese, we are not boastful and we need to improve more.


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Deputy chief engineer says BeiDou still faces two major challenges
2020-09-06 16:56:11 GMT+8 | cnTechPost
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At present, BeiDou and GPS III are a new stage in the development of the Global Navigation Satellite System (GNSS), but they still face two challenges, said Zhang Lixin, deputy chief engineer of BeiDou at China Aerospace Science and Technology Corporation.

He made the remarks at the 2020 Smart Technology and Industry Development Forum on September 6.

One of the challenges BeiDou faces, he said, is that users in some industries are demanding increasingly high service performance that cannot be met at present.
He said that users in some critical infrastructures, such as finance, power grids and communications, require high security, high availability and anti-spoofing, while users of automated driving and intelligent transportation require high precision, high integrity and dynamic decimeter-centimeter levels.



Another challenge is that the "fragility" of satellite signals leads to limited applications in complex environments. For example, complex terrain environments are susceptible to obscuration and multipath complexity, while complex electromagnetic environments are susceptible to interference and spoofing.
"The only way to develop BeiDou is with an integrated PNT system," Zhang said.

The BeiDou satellite navigation system, he said, will be developed in parallel with pulsar navigation, ground-based augmentation, land-based navigation, underwater navigation, indoor navigation and other systems to form the BeiDou integrated PNT system, which will achieve "unified standards, safety, credibility, efficiency and convenience".
The key way to build BeiDou integrated PNT is "convergence", from the convergence of BeiDou systems, to the convergence of BeiDou integrated PNT systems, to the construction of systems that are open to the world and the future, such as PNT inter-system and all-source.


Referring to the future BeiDou satellites, Zhang said that the BeiDou satellites will be "all digital" in the future, moving from baseband to RF and processing RF digital signals directly.

He also said that the BeiDou III global satellite navigation system has become the world's advanced navigation system, and the BeiDou system will be even smarter in the future.
"Satellite navigation is an important national information infrastructure, as well as the cornerstone of human activities and the prerequisite for the development of intelligent transportation. Currently, countries around the world are competing to develop independent and autonomous satellite navigation systems," he said.

There are four major satellite navigation in the world, plus two regional navigation systems. On the whole, BeiDou III is at the shoulder-to-shoulder stage and has developed to the world's advanced level and is a local leader, he said.
"In January 2020, a third-party organization conducted a month-long analysis and comparison of the world's four major navigation systems, and BeiDou offers the best service with clear advantages in terms of spatial signal accuracy and positioning accuracy," he said.

The BeiDou project started in 1994, and the construction of BeiDou I was completed in 2000 and BeiDou II was completed in 2012.
The BeiDou III global satellite navigation system was fully completed and opened for service, marking China as the third country in the world to independently own a global satellite navigation system.

ansy1968 said:

This is what I like about us Chinese, we are not boastful and we need to improve more.


from cnTechPost
Deputy chief engineer says BeiDou still faces two major challenges
2020-09-06 16:56:11 GMT+8 | cnTechPost

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At present, BeiDou and GPS III are a new stage in the development of the Global Navigation Satellite System (GNSS), but they still face two challenges, said Zhang Lixin, deputy chief engineer of BeiDou at China Aerospace Science and Technology Corporation.

He made the remarks at the 2020 Smart Technology and Industry Development Forum on September 6.

One of the challenges BeiDou faces, he said, is that users in some industries are demanding increasingly high service performance that cannot be met at present.
He said that users in some critical infrastructures, such as finance, power grids and communications, require high security, high availability and anti-spoofing, while users of automated driving and intelligent transportation require high precision, high integrity and dynamic decimeter-centimeter levels.



Another challenge is that the "fragility" of satellite signals leads to limited applications in complex environments. For example, complex terrain environments are susceptible to obscuration and multipath complexity, while complex electromagnetic environments are susceptible to interference and spoofing.
"The only way to develop BeiDou is with an integrated PNT system," Zhang said.

The BeiDou satellite navigation system, he said, will be developed in parallel with pulsar navigation, ground-based augmentation, land-based navigation, underwater navigation, indoor navigation and other systems to form the BeiDou integrated PNT system, which will achieve "unified standards, safety, credibility, efficiency and convenience".
The key way to build BeiDou integrated PNT is "convergence", from the convergence of BeiDou systems, to the convergence of BeiDou integrated PNT systems, to the construction of systems that are open to the world and the future, such as PNT inter-system and all-source.


Referring to the future BeiDou satellites, Zhang said that the BeiDou satellites will be "all digital" in the future, moving from baseband to RF and processing RF digital signals directly.

He also said that the BeiDou III global satellite navigation system has become the world's advanced navigation system, and the BeiDou system will be even smarter in the future.
"Satellite navigation is an important national information infrastructure, as well as the cornerstone of human activities and the prerequisite for the development of intelligent transportation. Currently, countries around the world are competing to develop independent and autonomous satellite navigation systems," he said.

There are four major satellite navigation in the world, plus two regional navigation systems. On the whole, BeiDou III is at the shoulder-to-shoulder stage and has developed to the world's advanced level and is a local leader, he said.
"In January 2020, a third-party organization conducted a month-long analysis and comparison of the world's four major navigation systems, and BeiDou offers the best service with clear advantages in terms of spatial signal accuracy and positioning accuracy," he said.

The BeiDou project started in 1994, and the construction of BeiDou I was completed in 2000 and BeiDou II was completed in 2012.
The BeiDou III global satellite navigation system was fully completed and opened for service, marking China as the third country in the world to independently own a global satellite navigation system.

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Meanwhile, India be like "SUPAPOWAH 2020!"

AndrewS said:

The big thing to note is that the USA today is a broadly middle-class society.
The middle-classes do not support violence or armed gangs, because they have too much to lose.

It is the lower-classes or other disaffected groups that use violence, because they have nothing to lose and no power to change things.

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You’re right but our middle class has been shrinking for years, not to mention the Pandemic has not been particularly merciful for the USA. That’s part of the reason why there’s so much tension because we’re the first generation projected to do worse than our parents in our country’s history. Many Americans like myself cannot afford to buy a home or have kids anymore. There’s simply no longer the same opportunities afforded to us.

ansy1968 said:

Hi In4ser,

I know we are deviating from the thread but need to ask you for a clear picture of what is real happening in the US. Is there a real divide in white AMerica community, If there is Im afraid the US is heading for a civil war. White American from my point of view had this entitlement and privilege ideas and are willing to fight for it.

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Yes, actually someone of the worst people are on the Left and are called the '' who hijack Black and Brown America's justifiable outrage of their socio-economic situation. These so-called 'allies' are just using these movements as a platform for moral superiority since many of them don't conform to traditional values like Judeo-Christianity or Capitalism so they need another just-cause to rally around.

While I'm no fan of the Conservative Right and their advocation of WASP privilege, it's still a system that Asian-Americans can be somewhat successful. We might be second-class citizens but as Asians, we also identify with similar values like home, family, and tradition. So while my heart goes out to causes on left, my brain sees that their movement is not only unrealistic but unsustainable. Honestly, it would not be incorrect to say that the USA facing a sort of Cultural Revolution.

There are pros and cons to an open vs a closed system. An open system provides more diversity of content and greater freedom of choice. This is a great asset because it injects character and vitality to society through the rapid introduction of new ideas and different perspectives. However, it can quickly become a liability without a filter because it allows dangerous and malicious content, and having diversity can create clear faultlines that can act as an accelerant to society’s problems.

The main problem with the US is not the left or right, its the fact that Americans have become narrowminded, complacent, and polarized. Democracies only work when people are willing to work together and implement policies that encourage progress and reforms. As a nation, we have people consumed by identity politics and what they want to hear rather than hard truths. This is particularly toxic amongst men who are unable to find success in work and therefore channel their anger and sense of purpose behind something else which usually involves victimization and blaming.

What really scares me is that once theses toxic ideologies have taken root, they not only spread like a disease but like cancer become hard to remove without chemotherapy. Once you reach a certain age, beliefs become entrenched it becomes harder and harder to change people's beliefs. That's why throughout human history, whenever a conqueror army takes over a city they tend to kill anyone adolescent or older. Yet we cannot do that without becoming the very monsters we swore to destroy but I don't know how else we could stop it. Today's biggest offenders are probably social media and the press but because it’s more profitable, they choose sensationalism over substance and encourage the growing divide in the country. The only way to stop it is to become like China and introduce censorship and draconian laws to try to get everyone on the same page because even if you reform our schools and institutions, it's going to take years to remove an entire generation of brainwashed individuals.

In4ser said:

The main problem with the US is not the left or right, its the fact that Americans have become narrowminded, complacent, and polarized. Democracies only work when people are willing to work together and implement policies that encourage progress and reforms. Instead, we have people consumed by identity politics and what they want to hear rather than hard truths. This is particularly toxic amongst men who are unable to find success in work and therefore channel their anger and sense of purpose behind something else which usually involves victimization and blaming.

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I agree.

From a societal standpoint, one of the biggest educational reforms would be increase the number of technical degrees (which have a shortage) and reduce the number of *softer* social sciences and arts degrees (which are oversupplied).

This would have the following major benefits.

1. More opportunities in those technical fields, which men gravitate to. That helps reduce the number of socio-economically disadvantaged men. At this time, the USA has far more females than males graduating from university with expensive state-subsidised degrees with little utility.
2. More technological advancements in society overall.

But will this happen given the identity politics of feminism (male oppression) versus male favouritism?

As a society, you ideally want happy pairing of 1 man and 1 woman, but such a situation is so much harder to achieve when many woman won't accept a lesser educated man.

Anyway, this is way off-topic now.

Perhaps an American society thread would be useful?

In4ser said:

You’re right but our middle class has been shrinking for years, not to mention the Pandemic has not been particularly merciful for the USA. That’s part of the reason why there’s so much tension because we’re the first generation projected to do worse than our parents in our country’s history. Many Americans like myself cannot afford to buy a home or have kids anymore. There’s simply no longer the same opportunities afforded to us.


Yes, actually someone of the worst people are on the Left and are called the '

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' who hijack Black and Brown America's justifiable outrage of their socio-economic situation. These so-called 'allies' are just using these movements as a platform for moral superiority since many of them don't conform to traditional values like Judeo-Christianity or Capitalism so they need another just-cause to rally around.

While I'm no fan of the Conservative Right and their advocation of WASP privilege, it's still a system that Asian-Americans can be somewhat successful. We might be second-class citizens but as Asians, we also identify with similar values like home, family, and tradition. So while my heart goes out to causes on left, my brain sees that their movement is not only unrealistic but unsustainable. Honestly, it would not be incorrect to say that the USA facing a sort of Cultural Revolution.

There are pros and cons to an open vs a closed system. An open system provides more diversity of content and greater freedom of choice. This is a great asset because it injects character and vitality to society through the rapid introduction of new ideas and different perspectives. However, it can quickly become a liability without a filter because it allows dangerous and malicious content, and having diversity can create clear faultlines that can act as an accelerant to society’s problems.

The main problem with the US is not the left or right, its the fact that Americans have become narrowminded, complacent, and polarized. Democracies only work when people are willing to work together and implement policies that encourage progress and reforms. As a nation, we have people consumed by identity politics and what they want to hear rather than hard truths. This is particularly toxic amongst men who are unable to find success in work and therefore channel their anger and sense of purpose behind something else which usually involves victimization and blaming.

What really scares me is that once theses toxic ideologies have taken root, they not only spread like a disease but like cancer become hard to remove without chemotherapy. Once you reach a certain age, beliefs become entrenched it becomes harder and harder to change people's beliefs. That's why throughout human history, whenever a conqueror army takes over a city they tend to kill anyone adolescent or older. Yet we cannot do that without becoming the very monsters we swore to destroy but I don't know how else we could stop it. Today's biggest offenders are probably social media and the press but because it’s more profitable, they choose sensationalism over substance and encourage the growing divide in the country. The only way to stop it is to become like China and introduce censorship and draconian laws to try to get everyone on the same page because even if you reform our schools and institutions, it's going to take years to remove an entire generation of brainwashed individuals.

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Hi In4ser,

I thank you for a very informative opinion about the present state of the US, I wish you luck and be safe. I maybe too optimistic, but some how American had always sorted its problem peacefully cause you always have strong institution.

Do you thinks media both of the LEFT (CNN, MSNBC) and the RIGHT (FOX NEWS) needed to be curtailed. They are the one inflaming this hatred.