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machupicu

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"out"-eu+n.a+5eyes+jp+SK = 1.2b ppl
(except some of Germany, Spain..)

"out"- India 1.3b ppl
Total out = 2.5b ppl

China: 1.4b, Huawei got 50%

Remaining other countries: huge, 3b ppl where Huawei gets +30%!


‘Huawei Barometer’ Shows Political Pressure on 5G Rollout: Map
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September 4, 2020, 5:26 AM EDT
Technology Gets Political

For a measure of the pressure on China’s Huawei Technologies Co., consider the map
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the company’s telecommunications equipment. Shenzhen-based Huawei is the market leader in
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, the next generation of wireless broadband that could catalyze a new industrial revolution of smart cities and factories. The U.S. claims Huawei’s proximity to Beijing’s government constitutes an unacceptable security threat, which the company denies. Through lobbying and sanctions the U.S. has pushed allies such as the U.K. to exclude the company from mobile networks, to
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machupicu

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Just a reminder , China has huge hurdles and risk to go over but also possible huge rewards.

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From a WSJ article:
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Like virtually all chip makers, SMIC relies on American manufacturing technology to build and test its chips. U.S. firms account for 45% of the global market for chip manufacturing equipment, according to industry group SEMI. For some highly specialized processes, American companies are all but indispensable, according to industry analysts.

“The U.S. still has the stranglehold on the technology that they need,” said Paul Triolo, head of the global technology policy practice at political risk consulting firm Eurasia Group.

. Does it actually mean a fab can't establish a semi line without using at least 1 USA equipment??

Note: on a previous atimes.com it mentions Tokyo Electron has products in 6 out of 10 semi processes, and from your posting above it looks like Chinese companies do have products in each of the semi process except the litho machine, right?

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galvatron

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From a WSJ article:
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Like virtually all chip makers, SMIC relies on American manufacturing technology to build and test its chips. U.S. firms account for 45% of the global market for chip manufacturing equipment, according to industry group SEMI. For some highly specialized processes, American companies are all but indispensable, according to industry analysts.

“The U.S. still has the stranglehold on the technology that they need,” said Paul Triolo, head of the global technology policy practice at political risk consulting firm Eurasia Group.

. Does it actually mean a fab can't establish a semi line without using at least 1 USA equipment??

Note: on a previous atimes.com it mentions Tokyo Electron has products in 6 out of 10 semi processes, and from your posting above it looks like Chinese companies do have products in each of the semi process except the litho machine, right?

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Just ban all exports of rare earths to the US.
 

emblem21

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Just ban all exports of rare earths to the US.
The USA economy is liable to collapse first and then that country will crumple to third world status. So stopping China from developing for a few months while China catches up while the USA loses its superpower status, world reserve status and then the USA will be isolated for everyone's safety. Really doesn't sound like the USA knows what they are getting into
 

j17wang

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You are assuming that China can only survive at the mercy of the new possible US president (Joe Biden). If you live on other's mercy, you won't have a life. Never make your plan based on the failure of your enemy, that is not a plan. You make plans to win the battle even if your enemy is focused and united and fight at their full strength.

Taxiya, I am not talking about mercy. China does not expect, nor will it receive mercy. I am talking about the need to keep a low profile and swallow a bitter pill with less than proportional retaliation for any moves the US makes for the next 2 months. In november, china's kid gloves should come off, and indeed the worst possible outcome that china faces is a resounding biden victory. A trump victory, or a contested election with only a slight win for either party will sap the strength of the US to deal with internal factors. China needs to be ready to cut deals with netherlands come november for ASML EUV or reverse engineer whatever shit it wants, sanctions and boycotts be damned when the US will be trying to put down its own rebellions. I'm saying to test TSCM's resolve to not supply chips to Huawei when they don't have the US security blanket to protect then. China's once in a generation moment comes on November 4 whether we like it or not, so its better time to prepare now for the coming turkey shoot.
 

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Huawei confirmed shifts in investment from the us to russia, while at the same time recruiting more russian scientists and increasing their salary, and especially cooperating in cybersecurity and cloud computing
Long term is an excellent strategic move by huawei by utilizing excellent russian talents the total independence from any us equipments can be realized sooner
 

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Huawei confirmed shifts in investment from the us to russia, while at the same time recruiting more russian scientists and increasing their salary, and especially cooperating in cybersecurity and cloud computing
Long term is an excellent strategic move by huawei by utilizing excellent russian talents the total independence from any us equipments can be realized sooner

Russians are often underrated in their tech talent pool, so investing there can pay big dividends.
 

emblem21

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Russians are often underrated in their tech talent pool, so investing there can pay big dividends.
And the lose of Asian talent is going to be a massive blow to the USA in regards to any recovery they could had if they werent so damn racist
 

SilentObserver

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5G Mining Equipment, automated excavator and transport vehicles. 1 remote driver is able to oversee 15 vehicles through automation. This will enable a relatively small team to operate a major mining or construction project.

Not only will this greatly improve mining safety and productivity it will also have an impact on military logistics and construction. At high altitudes the human operator is a major limiting factor. Humans are constrained by fatigue, visible light spectrum, and risk tolerance. This can be resolved with remote operation. Drivers can be swapped without gap like changing shifts at an office set to optimal working conditions to have machines be in constant operation. Machine can be operated at night with non-visible light spectrum cameras. The machine can be placed to complete high risk tasks without risk to the operator. In the future with fully electrified equipment, altitude wouldn't be much of a limiting factor to its performance.

Refinement of this technology can potentially enable China to tap into the resources (water, minerals) of the Tibetan plateau on a large scale.
 
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