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ansy1968 said:

its official, The partnership ended in a divorced, Huawei shift its attention to SMIC.

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TSMC says no plans to continue supplying Huawei after Sept 14
2020-07-16 17:16:23 GMT+8 | cnTechPost

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TSMC has no plans to continue supplying Huawei after September 14, the company said today in an investor meeting on its second-quarter results.

The new restrictions on Huawei announced by the U.S. Commerce Department on May 15 will officially take effect on September 15.

TSMC today released its financial results for the second quarter of fiscal 2020, which ended June 30.
According to the results, TSMC's Q2 revenue was NT$310.699 billion (US$10.540 billion). This represents an increase of 28.9% from $240.999 billion in the same period of the previous year.
Net profit was NT$120.822 billion (US$4.099 billion), up 81.0% from the same period a year earlier.


It was previously reported that TSMC had made a submission to the U.S. to continue supplying Huawei after the grace period, and TSMC didn't make a comment on this.
Huawei, for its part, has begun to lay out suppliers within the mainland, shifting its chip production to the mainland's largest manufacturer, SMIC.

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History will look back to this day and understand it as the starting point of TSMC's slow demise.

ansy1968 said:

I remember our SDF esteem member Tidalwave

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*Laugh emoji*

hullopilllw said:

History will look back to this day and understand it as the starting point of TSMC's slow demise.

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hi hullopilllw

If it happen, it will be an unfortunate event after all they are also Chinese. TSMC future is not for them to decide but is tied to the whims of the US, that's the price for being successful I think.

Its a wake up call , Whatever decision you made on TikTok, they will always consider you a threat.

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ByteDance plans China expansion to resist US pressure to sell TikTok
2020-07-16 20:02:50 GMT+8 | cnTechPost
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Faced with the threat of a U.S. ban on TikTok, its parent company ByteDance has made it clear to some investors that the plans to focus more on growth in the Chinese market, The Information cited a ByteDance investor as saying.

ByteDance's approach is to expand into new areas and try to develop a new popular app, the report said.

While ByteDance is facing increasing international pressure on TikTok, its China business is Thriving.
Growth was driven by its China app suite, including Douyin and Toutiao. In the first quarter of this year, ByteDance generated more than RMB 40 billion ($5.7 billion) in advertising revenue.
While ByteDance is once again focusing on expanding its China business, according to sources ByteDance founder Zhang Yiming unlikely to consider selling TikTok at this time.


Zhang Yiming is still determined to build a global company, the person said, and the sale of the company would not be enough. TikTok will also pose some practical problems: outsiders will have access to ByteDance's computer code. and its content recommendation engine.
According to another person familiar with Zhang Yiming's thinking, Zhang Yiming is reluctant to give up his The value of TikTok has been built over time by ByteDance.

In the past few weeks, ByteDance has faced a rapidly changing global environment, especially for TikTok.
The Indian government has banned dozens of Chinese apps, including TikTok.


U.S. government officials have again floated the idea of a ban.

Amazon sent an email to all of its employees last Friday asking them to uninstall TikTok from their phones, in a move that also shows that U.S. businesses may accelerate the banning of TikTok.
While Amazon has since changed its tune, U.S. bank Wells Fargo and various US government agencies have issued similar directives.

The fact that his company is thriving in China does not help as it comes at the expense of other Chinese competitors. China will always have a video sharing market. The question is whether China can also have market share internationally.

The computer code and content recommendation engine does not matter as it will be outdated in 3-5 years anyway, so it should not be a reason not to sell.

How can ByteDance build a global company if it is locked out of multiple large markets, including the world's (soon to be) most populous country and its largest economy by nominal GDP? It will be fighting with a handicap.

gadgetcool5 said:

The fact that his company is thriving in China does not help as it comes at the expense of other Chinese competitors.

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What?? That's basically saying that whenever any Chinese company does well in China, it's bad because it's at the expense of other Chinese companies LOL. That's one hell of a spin there...

gadgetcool5 said:

China will always have a video sharing market. The question is whether China can also have market share internationally.

The computer code and content recommendation engine does not matter as it will be outdated in 3-5 years anyway, so it should not be a reason not to sell.

How can ByteDance build a global company if it is locked out of multiple large markets, including the world's (soon to be) most populous country and its largest economy by nominal GDP? It will be fighting with a handicap.

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You're missing the forest for the trees. This is about how China develops and grows towards its national goals, with its companies as components of its success. It's NOT about how China can/should sacrifice its national interests so that certain Chinese companies can have more global business; that's selling the car for gas money. There's plenty of world market left, well enough for expansion and growth.

gadgetcool5 said:

The fact that his company is thriving in China does not help as it comes at the expense of other Chinese competitors. China will always have a video sharing market. The question is whether China can also have market share internationally.

The computer code and content recommendation engine does not matter as it will be outdated in 3-5 years anyway, so it should not be a reason not to sell.

How can ByteDance build a global company if it is locked out of multiple large markets, including the world's (soon to be) most populous country and its largest economy by nominal GDP? It will be fighting with a handicap.

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I don’t think India will reach the largest country by nominal GDP within the next fifty years. Did you confuse PPP with nominal?

siegecrossbow said:

I don’t think India will reach the largest country by nominal GDP within the next fifty years. Did you confuse PPP with nominal?

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Even PPP it's not happening. He means India as the country with the largest population and the US as the country with the largest nominal GDP. He makes nonsense predictions all the time but saying Indian nominal GDP will overtake USA/China so far isn't one of them yet...

manqiangrexue said:

Even PPP it's not happening. He means India as the country with the largest population and the US as the country with the largest nominal GDP. He makes nonsense predictions all the time but saying Indian nominal GDP will overtake USA/China so far isn't one of them yet...

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If Trump bans tiktok there is a very high probability that some dumbass teenager addict would try to burn the White House down. That stuff is like opium.

siegecrossbow said:

If Trump bans tiktok there is a very high probability that some dumbass teenager addict would try to burn the White House down. That stuff is like opium.

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The youth vote could actually be a thing in a presidential election.