News on China's scientific and technological development.

horse

Colonel
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China doesn't have a top 10 pharma, biotech, instrumentation or medtech firm
China doesn't have a successful large commercial aircraft
China runs large trade deficits in machine tools and industrial automation with US allies/slaves Germany and Japan
*same thing with chemicals

According to Ministry of Industry and Information Technology figures for 2018, of the more than 130 key basic chemical materials, 32 percent varieties were still blank in China and 52 percent remained dependent on imports.

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You really do not know anything about China.

Why don't you just look up what kind of German companies are operating inside China, and the products they sell from their Chinese plants.

Then while you are at it, look at the equipment and gear inside the hospitals China are building.

What you talk about and think, that is just paper and not reality.

Furthermore, what makes you think those countries are willing American allies?

The world you believe in, does not exist anymore.

It is too much of a shock to your fellow citizens that the media will not report it in any great detail.

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tokenanalyst

Brigadier
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talking about machine tools, looks like those American export controls in the early 2000s did really stopped China from becoming a mayor producer in machine tools and did not helped Germany or Japan at all. Look at the gigantic market shared of the U.S. they are more competitive than ever.

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PiSigma

"the engineer"
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While company formation declined in other major markets such as the US, Europe, and Japan, more than 140 new biotech companies emerged in China from 2010 to 2020. (See Exhibit 1.)

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Being second is not equal to being behind.
I think sleepy meant capitalization in top 10. So USA got the lead since Tesla is worth more than the next 100000 car companies combined. Who cares about the real world when Elon Musk is Tony Stark.
 

mossen

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What the pandemic exposed is that the physical world matters greatly, despite all the talk of "software eating the world" and buzzwords like blockchain, web3, crypto etc. It took just one oil tanker getting stuck at the Suez canal for the world economy to go into a frenzy.

And so I don't pay much attention to bloated stock markets or insane market caps. What matters is actual output. Of course, China does lag in areas like AI or chips. Nobody here denies that, although the gap in AI is quite small now. The gap in chips is still large, but rapidly improving.

An underappreciated story is how much China has advanced in areas like white goods or cars. I'd say that companies like NIO or Xpeng are at the level of the best of Western firms already. Whenever China reaches parity in a sector, its critics immediately switch topic to an area where China is still lagging, to keep the narrative going that China is behind on everything. It's insincere.
 

Bellum_Romanum

Brigadier
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HOW CHINA PICKS AMERICA'S BRAINS Much of its economic success has been built on bought, borrowed, or stolen technology. Now U.S. companies are striking back -- but a two-way street is still far off.

*JAPAN was replaced with CHINA plus a nefarious and all conquering COMMUNISM style of governance America has all the perfect ingredients to demonize her new rival.

* This article written way back in 1987 for CNN shows all the anti-Asian racist trope that's leveled and labeled against Japan are amplified and used against China.

*People that are against China or criticizing its supposed policies as the culprit for the American hostilities really need their head examined and lobotomized.

*History and American Strategic play against Japan is simply being recycled, repackaged, and repurposed with more vigour against China

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xypher

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Supposedly, China has secured export for the hualong nuclear reactors to Argentina in a deal worth up to 8 billion



Argentina seems to be turning back to China after Fernandez, a leftist ex president returned as vice president in 2019
Bolsonaro is essentially done in Brazil and Lula is projected to win the presidency. Opportunities in Latin America are steadily growing as it seems that the region as a whole is shifting left-ward with recent elections in Chile and Peru.
 
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