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mossen

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Does anyone know if nuclear power plants like Hualong One are vulnerable to missile strikes?

Seems like China is planning a large increase in number of nuclear plants. A little worried it would give adversaries easy targets to cause disproportionate damage
Actually, if you really wanted to hurt your adversary, just set off a few nukes in the atmosphere above the major industrial centers and you will fry their entire electrical grid and set them back to the stone age within a few seconds.

If an adversary wanted to select a smaller impact target then the 3 gorges dam would be still very bad. So no, I don't think worrying about a few nuclear plants is the real issue here.
 

Hyper

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Does anyone know if nuclear power plants like Hualong One are vulnerable to missile strikes?

Seems like China is planning a large increase in number of nuclear plants. A little worried it would give adversaries easy targets to cause disproportionate damage
Nuclear fuel for reactors is stored in bunkers nearby. They can withstand a nuclear blast.
 

Hyper

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I remember my graduate class in commutative algebra which of course began with the Chinese remainder theorem, and the (white) professor remarked on how curious it was that the theorem got called the Chinese remainder theorem even though we knew the name of the Chinese mathematician who first discovered it.

In retrospect we're lucky it's even called Chinese remainder theorem. Given how Chinese New Year became Lunar New Year even though it's the new year in the Chinese calendar which was invented by Chinese mathematicians and astronomers, it won't surprise me if Chinese remainder theorem suddenly becomes Asian remainder theorem in not so distant future.
The first evidence for the Chinese remainder theorem came from a third century book. Even within the book there was no clear source for the mathematician who came up with it.
 

sndef888

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Actually, if you really wanted to hurt your adversary, just set off a few nukes in the atmosphere above the major industrial centers and you will fry their entire electrical grid and set them back to the stone age within a few seconds.

If an adversary wanted to select a smaller impact target then the 3 gorges dam would be still very bad. So no, I don't think worrying about a few nuclear plants is the real issue here.
Let's say taiwan for example, they don't have nukes and can't really strike the three gorges, but there are a ton of nuclear plants in range like fuqing for example.

I've heard generation iii reactors are double contained, and can survive commercial jet crashes, so I wonder how that would translate to missile strikes
 

sndef888

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It's always the same playbook with China, to use foreign tech slowly and once they get a completely domestic design to ramp up production greatly.

Anyway, I'm really looking forward to who else China exports the Hualong One (and CAP1400) to. Iran seems like a likely destination considering the $400 billion deal they signed
 

Hyper

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Merics is extremely good and accurate think tank on China. They generally have well balanced and sensible articles. But this article has many many tiny inconsistencies.
Researchers per capita is a misleading statistics. Comparing to small countries is like trying to change an iPhone with usb-c . The R&D budget is clear . Spend money in something clear . Not something like algebraic geometry or the langlands program. Running big science projects is not a good idea. Without a clear cut idea and a focused vision and goals a research program is bound to fail. Tomorrow if China says that they will create a ' Manhattan Project ' like program to solve the P vs NP problem . Do you think that it will be solved . No one in China or for that matter the world is capable of solving P vs NP . Research programs and scientific funding does not work that way.
 

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MERICS is full of bs again. After seeing that China is making too much progress, now they fall back to their favourite "per capita" metrics.

Its like they forgot that China is still a developing country and that with having such a large population, China can have low per capita but in absolute numbers still dominating the rest of the world.

Also, for MERICS to keep up with its own propaganda about "no freedum!" they conveniently forgot to mention the recent change in the S&T law in China which now gives more freedom to scientists to perform their research.

Thats not an analysis but merely a propaganda piece
 
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