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simonov

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Is any possible that J-10 deployment consist of 2 type which use 2 diffrence machines ? just example deploy 100 with AL-31FN machine and around 50 with WS-10/WS-10A
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crobato

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The logistics would be different. Thats why the PW powered F-16s don't even hang around with GE powered F-16s in the same unit.

However, so long as one engine type gets collected into a seperate regiment from the other, yes, you can deploy both engines simultaneously, just as having the F-16s with both PW and GE engines.

In a way, the J-8IIs may already have done this, some units may have the Kunlun WP-14 engine, while others have the WP-13B (-BII) engine.
 

Jiang

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Is any possible that J-10 deployment consist of 2 type which use 2 diffrence machines ? just example deploy 100 with AL-31FN machine and around 50 with WS-10/WS-10A
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I certanily hope so. Remember, russian will not self China good stuff. You have to push them hard, and allow competion such as lefting the EU ban to get better stuff from russia. THIS ALSO SHOW HOW RUSSIAN DO BUSSINESS. Having no principles at all, and to rip you off as hard as they can.:mad:
 

maozedong

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I think WS10 may used in J-11b better than used in J-10 first.
however WS10 engine still needs time to examine it's reliability, I mean put the engine in large amound prodution that require very good technical quality.
J-11b is twin engines fighter,if one of the engines dosn't work,the fighter still fly,may less the dangerous.
but J-10 is single engine.
Russia source reported that China still order large amound of AL31fn engines.
 

simonov

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So that, if they declasify J-10 its mean al least 100-200 J-10 in deployment. The case is same with J-8, when the number hit 200 they allow it to expor it. Is in the case can same with the J-8 case?
 

Deino

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Looks like there is another way to distinguish WS-10 and AL-31FN. I wonder what those two bubble for?



Maybe :confused: You are right ... the first twi pictures are from that one early prototype (1005 ???) repainted for Zhuhai 2006 with the bubbles on the air-brakes and the wider metal part = WS-10 !!

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And here - one of the earlier dark coloured prototypes + presumably WS-10 powered ... but I can't recognise the bubbles !

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This one looks like an early production AL-31FN-powered machine ...

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Therefore by looking at the bubbles + the width of the metal part I would say:

On the planes with the wider ring with bubbles ---> = WS-10-powered !
On the planes with the shorter ring without bubbles ---> = AL-31FN-powered !

Very strange ????? :confused: ... but seems to be right !

Deino
 
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maozedong

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So that, if they declasify J-10 its mean al least 100-200 J-10 in deployment. The case is same with J-8, when the number hit 200 they allow it to expor it. Is in the case can same with the J-8 case?

I don't see any J-8 ( I think you mean J-8 II ) export to any countrys.
J-10 declasify may not for export, may be there is some politics reason, or other reason that we don't know.
but one thing we know is that FC-1 is really for export.
 
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BLUEJACKET

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by Richard Fisher, Jr.
Published on January 16th, 2007
I find it quite interesting, especialy regarding export potential, %th genration follow on, and navalization.
 

bd popeye

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Excellent article BLUEJACKET. Thanks for posting that!

Basically Mr. Fisher is summerizing what members of this and other Chinese military forums have been discussing for some time now. With the addition of the information of the many news articles published on the J-10.

I particulary like the info on the WZ-10.

The article does a great job of summing up the aircraft and possible future developments.

It is once again very apparent to me that Richard Fisher reads this and other Chinese military forums.
 
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