New Energy Vehicles (NEVs) in China

horse

Colonel
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I have my suspicions what this actually means

Did enough EU states actually confirm to voting against the tariffs? Or is there some mechanism where the EU commission can unilaterally withdraw the tariffs?

I got a total different view on this. Since this is a posting forum, it is bullshit time!

The EU was in between a rock and a hard place.

Start a tariff war with the EV tariffs where the Chinese will hit your farmers.

OR

Get eaten alive when allowing full access to Chinese EVs to the European market.


With this agreement, ONE, the EU keeps its farmers happy allowing those spineless politicians to be re-elected, and TWO, they made the best move out of a bad situation.

As for China, they full are aware of how integrated the EVs are with European auto companies and Chinese car companies.

This agreement will allow the EV industry in Europe to try and find its footing in the coming years, and avoid a tariff war with China. That is a win for the Europeans.

This, also however is a massive loss on the geopolitical plane for the Americans.

When European companies like Stellantis are selling Chinese EVs under some licensing agreement, and Germany auto tied at the hip to Chinese auto, well then, where does this leave the Americans in their pursuit of roping in allies to confront China?

Notice the Americans were not a part of these negotiations.

I would like to say an obscenity, you know what I mean, directed at those people, but I do not want to get banned. If you feel me, as the African-American like sayin'.

The lying American media deserves this, extra spicy too.

Wonder how they gonna spin it.

:D
 

Overbom

Brigadier
Registered Member
I got a total different view on this. Since this is a posting forum, it is bullshit time!

The EU was in between a rock and a hard place.

Start a tariff war with the EV tariffs where the Chinese will hit your farmers.

OR

Get eaten alive when allowing full access to Chinese EVs to the European market.


With this agreement, ONE, the EU keeps its farmers happy allowing those spineless politicians to be re-elected, and TWO, they made the best move out of a bad situation.

As for China, they full are aware of how integrated the EVs are with European auto companies and Chinese car companies.

This agreement will allow the EV industry in Europe to try and find its footing in the coming years, and avoid a tariff war with China. That is a win for the Europeans.

This, also however is a massive loss on the geopolitical plane for the Americans.

When European companies like Stellantis are selling Chinese EVs under some licensing agreement, and Germany auto tied at the hip to Chinese auto, well then, where does this leave the Americans in their pursuit of roping in allies to confront China?

Notice the Americans were not a part of these negotiations.

I would like to say an obscenity, you know what I mean, directed at those people, but I do not want to get banned. If you feel me, as the African-American like sayin'.

The lying American media deserves this, extra spicy too.

Wonder how they gonna spin it.

:D
agree. this solves a lot of issues Europeans had with Chinese EVs, but also (permanently?) solves the Chinese issue of having guaranteed access to the European market. Ok maybe they won't capture the entire market but that was never in the cards just for political reasons

Biggest loser is the Americans and European consumers lol

in any way, I consider this a win-win agreement tbh
 

Jiang ZeminFanboy

Senior Member
Registered Member
Sales and ASP of "luxury brand" models that are selling for under 300k RMB
you can see how un-luxurious Audi has become


China's top Heavy duty truck makers. About 29% of sales are CNG and NEVs


BYD has started taking orders for Xia

I don't know if Xia is a good idea. Denza's brand is not selling well, and this model Xia looks very similar to D9, but the price is just a little lower. D9 is just a bit more luxurious. Xia probably will take away a lot of sales from D9. They should made this model look more different from D9.
 

iewgnem

Junior Member
Registered Member
agree. this solves a lot of issues Europeans had with Chinese EVs, but also (permanently?) solves the Chinese issue of having guaranteed access to the European market. Ok maybe they won't capture the entire market but that was never in the cards just for political reasons

Biggest loser is the Americans and European consumers lol

in any way, I consider this a win-win agreement tbh
Its not about price, its about value, Chinese EVs are already selling at 2x to 3x markup in Europe, they arent taking over with lower prices, they're taking overby having better car at that price.

This is Europe capitulating, there is no winwin, this is win - lose less
 

hullopilllw

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This is the same as Indonesia. The top 2 models are Seal and ATTO 3. Dolphin comes in at 4th. There are some other lower tier players like Wuling, NETA, MG and expensive models by Hyundai, but sale chart is dominated totally by BYD.

1. BYD Seal: 1.251 unit
2. BYD Atto 3: 992 unit
3. Chery Omoda E5: 449 unit
4. BYD Dolphin: 416 unit
5. Wuling Air ev: 404 unit
6. Wuling Cloud EV: 340 unit
7. BYD M6: 312 unit
8. MG 4 EV: 272 unit
9. Hyundai Ioniq 5: 182 unit
10. Hyundai Kona Electric: 182 unit
11. Wuling BinguoEV: 133 unit
12. MG ZS EV: 129 unit
13. Neta V-II: 75 unit
14. Mitsubishi L100 EV: 38 unit
15. MINI Cooper SE: 36 unit
16. Toyota BZ4X: 32 unit
17. BMW iX1: 31 unit
18. Citroen E-C3: 29 unit
19. MINI Countryman SE: 17 unit
20. BMW i5: 12 unit
21. BMW iX xDrive40: 5 unit
22. DFSK Gelora E: 5 unit
23. BMW i7 xDrive60: 4 unit
24. Volvo C40: 4 unit
25. Hyundai Ioniq 6: 3 unit
26. Mercedes-Benz EQE 350: 3 unit
27. Volvo EX30: 1 unit
28. Volvo XC40: 1 unit

Baca artikel detikoto, "Daftar Mobil Listrik Terlaris Agustus 2024: BYD Seal Juaranya" selengkapnya
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