Surprised at the pure EV adoption numbers when there's a PHEV option. I would think PHEV is almost always preferable for its flexibility. I would only choose pure EV I lived in a city like Shanghai where they only give free plates to pure EVs.
New Energy Vehicles (NEVs) in China
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PikeCowboy
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Sales are great but despite all the hype about CATL and BYD battery market share how come it seems it doesn't translate into pricing or range, or efficiency advantage when compared with all the other rando brands. Tesla comes out much better with efficiency for a similarly priced model 3. The Ioniq 6 is also similarly priced and has a higher combined WLTP range. How is BYD competitive? Genuinely asking because it's obviously selling reasonably well.
I can't speak to BYD, but even the most expensive Tesla model has extremely cheap and low quality interiors and probably one of the worst suspensions of any vehicle I have been in. A new base model Toyota or Honda has vastly superior quality interiors and suspension by comparison.
PeoplesPoster
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Pretty sure most of those are still using nickel based batteries. Those will have higher energy density but much worse long term performance as well as the inherent environmental issues. Also the BYD price in Europe is much different than in other regions.
supercat
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JPMorgan: BYD global sales will reach 6 million (4.5 million domestic and 1.5 million exports) by 2026, which will make it on par with Hyundai-Kia, Stellantis, and GM, and its market cap will reach $180 billion from current $100 bilion.
Below is the newly released images of the 2025 BYD Song L DM-i PHEV:
Below is the newly released images of the 2025 BYD Song L DM-i PHEV:
bev is always the most economical in terms of operating cost in China.
BYD sells this many cars, has their own battery manufacturing, own chip manufacturing and everything. And yet its just 100 billion when Tesla has a market cap of 800 billion. Makes completely no sense.JPMorgan: BYD global sales will reach 6 million (4.5 million domestic and 1.5 million exports) by 2026, which will make it on par with Hyundai-Kia, Stellantis, and GM, and its market cap will reach $180 billion from current $100 bilion.
Below is the newly released images of the 2025 BYD Song L DM-i PHEV:
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Where do you think they are parking all those dollars they printed?
PHEVs have two systems to maintain.
How much maintenance would you need to do on the Battery/electric propulsion portion of the PHEV? I would say 2 systems, but the ICE part will take up 80-90% of the overall maintenance budget