New Energy Vehicles (NEVs) in China

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Dali new energy's D01 aiming to achieve 5000 exports this year. D01 is a small logistic vehicle.

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Deepway getting another 100 orders with 瑞弘物流. Their HDT is quite an impressive specimen and getting a lot of orders
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supersnoop

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Leapmotor C16 is launchd. A really strong alternative to L6 and M5


Stellantis should hurry. They need to get the suppliers to make this into a Jeep Grand Cherokee in Toledo OH for 2025.
EREV version is roughly MSRP is $25K US, so if we assume double the price after localization, it fits.
Deal for Leapmotor was signed October 2023, T03 started EU manufacture at Stellantis Poland in April 2024. 6 months, they can do it.
 

dingyibvs

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Nope, I have posted before, Disus-Z is similar to the Multimatic active suspension used in the Ford GT, Ferrari, etc. However, supposedly Disus-Z will also improve EV efficiency (that would be new).

Also, Rivian has a quad-motor vehicle on sale now.

That being said, it is true that U7 is probably the first EV with all of these things packaged together. However, it is still at an exotic price, so nothing new on that end.
Nope, the Disus-Z is a fully electromagnetic system, not just your average active hydraulic suspension like the multimatic. The faster response time of a fully electromagnetic system is not just a quantitative improvement over a hydraulic system, it's a qualitative improvement worthy of calling a revolutionary change. That's not even considering the energy recovery an electromagnetic system allows. A hydraulic active suspension system is most useful for sports cars, allowing the suspension to adjust during cornering which takes seconds, but it's only a quantitative improvement at best when it comes to ride quality over rough roads which needs adjustments over miliseconds.

 

supercat

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Stellantis should hurry. They need to get the suppliers to make this into a Jeep Grand Cherokee in Toledo OH for 2025.
EREV version is roughly MSRP is $25K US, so if we assume double the price after localization, it fits.
Deal for Leapmotor was signed October 2023, T03 started EU manufacture at Stellantis Poland in April 2024. 6 months, they can do it.
China's EVs are really competitive. The EREV version of C16 starts at $21,450, while the BEV starts at $22,250.
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Another example: Hozon's Neta L BEV, which can be charged from 10% to 80% in 21 minutes, was launched with a starting price of $19,260.
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You can't develop the EV industry with subsidies only.

China’s EV Success Story Built on Price Wars, Tesla Factor​

  • Subsidies aren’t always the magic bullet other nations claim
  • Cash helped propel innovation but laggards fell by the wayside
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Today's scary story about China's auto industry:

Chinese automakers expected to achieve 33% global market share by 2030​

  • Chinese automakers are expected to continue rapidly expanding outside of China to achieve 33% of the global automotive market share by 2030, according to consulting firm AlixPartners.
  • Much of the growth, up from a forecast 21% market share this year, is expected to be outside of China.
  • Sales outside of China are expected to grow from 3 million this year to 9 million by 2030, representing growth from 3% to 13% of market share by the end of this decade.
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Potential data sharing agreement between China and Germany:
Germany and China have signed a declaration of intent on how to discuss cross-border data transfer, a further step towards carmakers being able to transfer data to Germany, a German minister said on Wednesday.
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tamsen_ikard

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I keep seeing some accounts on Twitter posting videos of Chinese EV cars burning or exploding on the road. These accounts mostly try to portray Chinese EVs as prone to catch fire. Even if its all propaganda, they still are showing videos of burning EV's. I expect anti-China westerners will keep promoting this to make a perception inside people of the world that Chinese EVs catch on fire easily. That will be very bad for reputation.

Is there a study that shows the percentage of Chinese EVs that are catching on fire? How safe are Chinese Ev's compared to Tesla?
 

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I keep seeing some accounts on Twitter posting videos of Chinese EV cars burning or exploding on the road. These accounts mostly try to portray Chinese EVs as prone to catch fire. Even if its all propaganda, they still are showing videos of burning EV's. I expect anti-China westerners will keep promoting this to make a perception inside people of the world that Chinese EVs catch on fire easily. That will be very bad for reputation.

Is there a study that shows the percentage of Chinese EVs that are catching on fire? How safe are Chinese Ev's compared to Tesla?

This is some kind of FLG (maybe USA) influence campaign. I’ve been started to notice the same kind of comments and links over and over again. They keep linking to that South African sexpat guy or NTD/China Observer/Epoch Times. Probably a combo of AI, paid trolls, and plain anti-China people.

Nope, the Disus-Z is a fully electromagnetic system, not just your average active hydraulic suspension like the multimatic. The faster response time of a fully electromagnetic system is not just a quantitative improvement over a hydraulic system, it's a qualitative improvement worthy of calling a revolutionary change. That's not even considering the energy recovery an electromagnetic system allows. A hydraulic active suspension system is most useful for sports cars, allowing the suspension to adjust during cornering which takes seconds, but it's only a quantitative improvement at best when it comes to ride quality over rough roads which needs adjustments over miliseconds.


Yes, it’s been pointed out to me before, but IMO it’s literally the next evolution of active suspension rather than a totally novel concept.

There anre also previous active suspensions for comfort like GM Magnaride which used a electromagnetically charged fluid to adjust dampening.

I’m not trying to downplay BYD here, just my own opinion on revolutionary vs. evolutionary.
 
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