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New Energy Vehicles (NEVs) in China
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The black history of Elon's Wumaoism.
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Its ok, some.members here can get carried away with some of their comments. Doesnt change much.
Just wait until they see America. They're gonna have to create a new word to describe how behind we are.
tphuang is now a BYD sales rep. Noted.
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They have not been very secretive compared with Sakti3 and Theranos. Their own channel on YT has been up for something like a decade. Why haven't others in the battery community voiced their suspicions during the 14 years? Even Solyndra's commercial solar modules were flagged for their imperfections. Do you get my point?
But if their battery can't be charged at all by the current grid technology, then it's flatly a 'gotcha'.
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BYD Song+ DM-i photos. Look pretty good, quite different from the 2022 version. At least its looks have migrated to ocean series family.
Yuan pro pricing are now out
Yuan pro pricing are now out
Other battery makers don't voice shit, cuz it's a company that hasn't produced shit in 14 years.
Again, it's a 14 year old company that hasn't produced and sold any batteries at scale yet. When they make any claims, ones attitude should be of skepticism, because they haven't produced shit.
On the other hand, when BYD or CATL comes out with announcement about how they researched or developed new batteries with so and so new stats etc. People can have a positive/hopeful attitude, because these 2 companies have produced batteries at scale, and have a long history of actually putting forth newer and better batteries for sale.
Lucky him Huawei fired me last year.tphuang is now a BYD sales rep. Noted.
The key difference is those companies had a product. They were actually selling something commercially. This startup has nothing. No product. How much attention is possible when they don't even have anything to sell? Who cares enough to raise an flag on this minor company?
Their channel on YT consists only of 2 videos. Their puff piece with nothing of substance which had 82k views and was uploaded 11 years ago. Their battery cutting demonstration for 4 years ago only has 1.4k views. In that video, they're cutting a 10 mAh battery.
Did you notice the size of the battery? Based on their finger and probe, that battery is roughly 120 x 120 x 3 mm. 10mAh is pitiful for that size. I can get a 3200 mAh battery that only takes up 97 x 92 x 2.3 mm (LP239792) which is still smaller than that.
Here's an interview with Prieto's CEO in Dec 2021, so about 1.5 yrs ago.
He says their lifetime is "thousands of cycles" (notice no actual number here) but targeting (so not actually rearched yet) at least 3000 cycles for automobile-applications.
For comparison the BYD Blade, which is an actual product that is actually being used in cars today, was released in 2020 (3 years ago) with a lifetime of 3000+ cycles (minimum of 60% capacity left after 3000 cycles). An actual product vs vaporware.
In that same interview, he mentions they didn't even have a prototype until 2020. But wait, their battery-cutting video was from 2019 so what were they even cutting? Then, he says they don't have any manufacturing plant and would have their first design by April or May next year (that means 2022). ... It's the end of May 2023 now, still no pilot plant. According to their press from 6 days ago, they're still looking for a site.
Oh and here's another interview with their CEO, this time from 2 months ago.
You came here and claimed the Chinese EV giants, which are globally known, were falling behind compared to a no-name no-renown startup that literally has no product and has been in development hell for almost 2 decades. When shown that it's vaporware, you asked why no one raised any red flags about the company. It's vaporware how do you raise a red flag on a product that doesn't even exist. It's also a no-name company so who cares.
Geely Galaxy L7 is out
looking very competitively priced. BYD needs to watch out for this
looking very competitively priced. BYD needs to watch out for this