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Witchhunter12 said:

I'll keep it short, since you once again decided to make this about crime rate, eventhough it was already settled that nowhere did I mention crime rate and wanted to focus on mentally ill individuals carrying out terrorist acts. And okay granted, yes this happens in Japan too. I guess US, China, and Japan are all in the same boat with respect to this issue. Now that's settled, is anyone interested in talking about why and what be done about the issue, rather than just being triggered and accusing others of "insulting China's honor" for even daring to say its an issue of public concern?

There was no answer because all I ever did was say China because of its size has segments already living in developed conditions but as a whole is still a developing middle income country, and all the responses I got were people just essentially reiterating that point with extra steps. Quick question, do you think that China as a whole in terms of living standards, quality of social services, wealth, and tech can be considered to be on the same level as Germany, Japan, and Australia?

I don't need to address your point about China's innovation and industrial capacity, because well, what point of mine with respect to that were you trying to refute exactly?

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No. You are the one who is deflecting. Regardless of what you claim you tried to normalize crime and shootings in the USA by saying China has the same too. It objectively does not. US has 3 times more murders annually despite having the quarter of the population of China. Moreover, school shooting phenomenon of the USA is inexcusable and unique. Even in countries with civil wars children getting gunned down in school is rare.

China is definitely not in the same page with the USA when it comes to murders. Your bringing of China into this discussion was unnecessary and you did that in a factually incorrect way. This is topic here BTW, not mentally ill killers in China.

azn_cyniq said:

I don't think any of us disagree with the fact that there are mentally ill Chinese people committing terrible acts of violence in China. However, when you add blatantly untrue statements like "America and China are some of the only places in the world where such incidents happen with yearly frequency and in the context of Asia, China is unique in this phenomanon" it is only natural for us to call you out.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with criticizing China. However, if the basis of your criticism is a falsehood, it will invite harsh rebukes, naturally.

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Bro, you don't understand, out of 1.4 billion+ people, there's at least 1 or 2 guys who are completely batshit crazy, I'm telling you China is the only place in the world where this is the case, why don't you believe me when I say China is a complete shithole unlike anywhere else on earth when they literally have crazy people out of a population of 1.4 billion, please believe me bro.

I wonder if latest Turkish moves are related to Russia targetting their positions in Syria for the past few weeks. First the endorsement of NATO membership for Ukraine, then the release of neo-nazi commanders and now this. I must admit I was rooting for Erdogan to win the election because I expected him to continue serving as a destablizing factor but he seems to have fallen in line recently.

Witchhunter12 said:

I'll keep it short, since you once again decided to make this about crime rate, eventhough it was already settled that nowhere did I mention crime rate and wanted to focus on mentally ill individuals carrying out terrorist acts. And okay granted, yes this happens in Japan too. I guess US, China, and Japan are all in the same boat with respect to this issue.

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What a way trying to sugarcoat what you said before by moving the goalpost. Claiming that the US and China is the only countries that have mentally ill individuals carrying out terrorist acts is not only false but extremely prejudice and bias. I have already provided both Japan and South Korea have many such incidents and am ready to provide all EU nations also have such incidents if needed. Just admit that you have totally gotten the facts wrong for saying such phenomenon is unique in China. I have proven you wrong.

"But guess what? It still happens with enough frequency to be a massive cause for concern. America and China are some of the only places in the world where such incidents happen with yearly frequency and in the context of Asia, China is unique in this phenomanon. Not even high pressure South Korea, Thailand with a similar development level, or poorer countries like Philippines and Cambodia has such a phenomanon. (Although if you can prove me wrong here go ahead)"

Now that's settled, is anyone interested in talking about why and what be done about the issue, rather than just being triggered and accusing others of "insulting China's honor" for even daring to say its an issue of public concern?

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Not much for countries with a lot of guns. Guns make killing easy and difficult to prevent.

As for those countries don't have much guns, by providing better securities for kindergarten or schools and fire safety and prevention, then these incidents should be minimized and prevented to cause too many casualties.

All countries should give mental ill people more access with treatment and drugs and better monitor them. Psychiatric hospitals should be used only in the last resort for people that are danger to the society and themselves.

coolgod said:

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Pentagon repeated twice "a strategic failure for Ukraine". A Freudian slip twice? Maybe this is an act?

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Ukraine or Eastern Europe in general will not recover from this conflict. The demographic decline will accelerate migration further West all the way to North America.

Stierlitz said:

I wonder if latest Turkish moves are related to Russia targetting their positions in Syria for the past few weeks. First the endorsement of NATO membership for Ukraine, then the release of neo-nazi commanders and now this. I must admit I was rooting for Erdogan to win the election because I expected him to continue serving as a destablizing factor but he seems to have fallen in line recently.

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I dont think it has anything to Syria. Turkey has weak economic position and its Europhile population need to go West. It need all the help. You can read my posts about Turkey. those are based on Arab media. but you have to have understanding about context.

Dude is my favorite Island Leader based on how much butthurt he can create. Solomon Island now probably has the highest butthurt generated on r/WorldNews per capita.

Stierlitz said:

I wonder if latest Turkish moves are related to Russia targetting their positions in Syria for the past few weeks. First the endorsement of NATO membership for Ukraine, then the release of neo-nazi commanders and now this. I must admit I was rooting for Erdogan to win the election because I expected him to continue serving as a destablizing factor but he seems to have fallen in line recently.

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Putin wanted less NATO but ended up turning Baltic Sea into NATO lake among other things.

Broccoli said:

Putin wanted less NATO but ended up turning Baltic Sea into NATO lake among other things.

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What is the difference? NATO's eastward expansion would eventually be at Russian doorstep even if Putin did nothing.

Witchhunter12 said:

Ah here we go again. Well a cursory search online doesn't yield Chinese government statistics on knife attacks and other attacks causing mass casualty, so here's a wikipedia article on school stabbings in China, which doesn't take into account other attacks from lonewolf mentally ill people who prefer to use their car or arson in public spaces.

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Thank you for your story on crime in the Philippines. Only, just to point out it kind of counts as an anecdote, which you have criticized me in the past for. But I don't want to elaborate further since the next paragraph will address this.

And finally, eventhough I've been guilty of this in the past, I just want to say you're getting a little hopped up and accusing me of saying things I didn't even say. Above all, nowhere did I ever make this a discussion about crime rates. For one crime rate encompass all matters of violence beyond mass killings, such as gang violence, assault, robberies, and theft, and a cursory read of my previous two posts can show I did not mention it at all. And if it makes you feel better, I did say in a previous post that the spate of mass casualty incidents in America is more than China.

Since you just went on an unrelated tangent, I think that's about as much discussion is needed. Somehow I feel that as long as I didn't mention the US, people would've actually discussed the topic at hand, rather than just wildly accusing me of slandering China. And just as a reminder, the topic at hand are mass casualty incidents in China caused by lonewolf mentally ill people.

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That's a fair response. I don't agree with all the points you made but I understand the logic and reasoning you are trying to make. I appreciate the effort.

If I was being testy and even emotional with my response, I was because I know first hand how shit goes down in the Philippines and I won't say anything more than that. Ask any Filipinos on what they think of the level of criminality that happens in the country and they would tell you the truth. It's not pretty. It was Duterte that made the country somehow safe from the criminals that were running rampant and unabated that's been going on for decades. Most Filipinos that are from the small town province would not have the lived experience of being raped, robbed in open daylight with either a knife or guns and or both and get shot at (guns are everywhere in the Philippines) in most cities.

I suggest to you to watch Philippine news on YouTube on their news channels like GMA, ABS-CBN, TV5, and others to see the level of violence unfortunately happens. Their malls have armed guards, the entrances and exits are blocked by armed guards which have been normalized for the people in that country which do provide a level of safety.

Come and visit Tondo, and other shoddy areas in Manila and see how it turns out for you. There's a lot of shitty things that happens in that country that have been normalized and accepted by the majority in that country but most of them couldn't wait to actually leave the country of they have the means to do so to escape the suffocating poverty and criminality. Only the well-off, upper middle class folks can truly enjoy the lifestyle in that country.

Filipinos are resilient people and are generally very positive not to mention very welcoming but they tend to bury their negative opinions and feelings about their country because most of them who have gone abroad/overseas/foreign countries that are welcoming of immigrants couldn't wait to leave the PH for good.