I have come to the conclusion that in extremist countries fueled by religion. Democracy is not the solution. People will vote for religious parties that will use religious rhetoric to marginalize minorities and that makes it a dictatorship of the majority. A secular dictator like Ataturk would work better as a dictator has the luxury to not listen to the popular sentiments by making unpopular decisions. Classical conditioning of the society is achieved through a secular dictatorship. Once the society matures, it might pave the way for democracy.
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More for reference. China has 10 times more population than Japan.
More for South Korea. China has 30 times more population than South Korea.
More for South Korea. China has 30 times more population than South Korea.
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Lol he still has no answer to the fact that China is much more innovative and industrialized per capita than countries with even 2x-3x the GDP per capita and in fact is one of the most innovative and industrialized countries in the world.
I accept the silence as a concession.
I expect a further concession this time.
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That guy has unbelievably delusional takes most of the time
Usually I can smell a troll within 1-2 posts. This one took about 5.
The trolls are getting more and more advanced.
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I'll keep it short, since you once again decided to make this about crime rate, eventhough it was already settled that nowhere did I mention crime rate and wanted to focus on mentally ill individuals carrying out terrorist acts. And okay granted, yes this happens in Japan too. I guess US, China, and Japan are all in the same boat with respect to this issue. Now that's settled, is anyone interested in talking about why and what be done about the issue, rather than just being triggered and accusing others of "insulting China's honor" for even daring to say its an issue of public concern?
There was no answer because all I ever did was say China because of its size has segments already living in developed conditions but as a whole is still a developing middle income country, and all the responses I got were people just essentially reiterating that point with extra steps. Quick question, do you think that China as a whole in terms of living standards, quality of social services, wealth, and tech can be considered to be on the same level as Germany, Japan, and Australia?
I don't need to address your point about China's innovation and industrial capacity, because well, what point of mine with respect to that were you trying to refute exactly?
Not sure I agree. Also, I'm not strictly referring to nomads, but also the semi-nomadic cultures that followed their pattern of life-style.
The Xianbei, Jurchens, Mongols, Ottomans, Mughals, Timurids, etc. were all "winners" against sedentary society. Mostly they defeated each other or were overthrown in rebellions that only managed to drive them out, not conquer them. If you look at not just their record vs. China but vs. the rest of the settled world as a whole, it's rock solid as they managed to found most of the great empires of Eurasia until the age of Europeans. Descendants of the steppe once ruled over 70% of Eurasia, much like the Europeans did during the Age of Colonialism.
The Mongols, in this respect, were hardly alone. The 1,500 years between the fall of the Han and the Industrial Revolution could, with a bit of exaggeration, be considered the age of "barbarian" kings, when nomadic and semi-nomadic armies ruled the battle field.
Pentagon repeated twice "a strategic failure for Ukraine". A Freudian slip twice? Maybe this is an act?
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You said this:
I proved:
1. China is developmentally far beyond most Latin American and Southeast Asian countries based on economic complexity and innovation.
2. It isn't solely due to size since China is not only among the top 4 most innovative and industrialized economies overall but also per capita.
in social indicators such as life expectancy China is indeed comparable to advanced EU economies.
47 China
49 Czechia
52 Estonia
So we have a few facts:
1. Chinese economic complexity and innovation per capita is world leading.
2. Chinese social indicators are comparable to EU countries.
So no, China isn't developmentally at the level of Latin American or Southeast Asian countries, and no, China's technology isn't due to size.
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I don't think any of us disagree with the fact that there are mentally ill Chinese people committing terrible acts of violence in China. However, when you add blatantly untrue statements like "America and China are some of the only places in the world where such incidents happen with yearly frequency and in the context of Asia, China is unique in this phenomanon" it is only natural for us to call you out.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with criticizing China. However, if the basis of your criticism is a falsehood, it will invite harsh rebukes, naturally.