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luminary

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The Anglo imagining of "Western Civilization" has never existed. It's a fake narrative crafted to give legitimacy to their barbarism and conquests.

Why the Idea of Western Civilization is More Myth Than History​

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Greeks did not give us Western Civilization. That there is no golden thread, unfurling unbroken through time from Plato to NATO. That we in the modern West are not the heirs of a unique and elevated cultural tradition, stretching back through Atlantic modernity to Enlightenment and Renaissance Europe, and from there through the darkness of the medieval period and ultimately back to the glories of classical Greece and Rome.

For most of us, it seems normal—even natural—to think of Western history in these terms. Unthinkingly, we assume that the modern West is the custodian of a privileged inheritance, passed down through a kind of cultural genealogy that we usually refer to as “Western Civilization.”
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Greeks and Romans were much more diverse than we might think. They were neither predominantly white nor predominantly European, and indeed did not conceive of racial and geographical categories in the same way that we now do. As a result, the monks of western Europe, laboriously copying Latin manuscripts in their dusty scriptoria, were not the only medieval heirs of classical antiquity.

So too were the merchants of fourteenth century Sudan, conducting their trade in Greek; and so too were the Buddhist sculptors of northern India and Pakistan, who drew on the artistic traditions of the Indo-Greek kingdoms.

But perhaps the greatest centre of medieval classical learning when it came to the sciences was in Baghdad, the capital of the Abbasid Caliphate, where classical scholarship was fused with new philosophical and scientific developments drawn from across Asia, Africa, and Europe.
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It was only with the expansion of European overseas imperialism over the course of the seventeenth century that a more coherent idea of the West began to emerge, being deployed as a conceptual tool to draw the distinction between the type of people who could legitimately be colonised, and those who could legitimately be colonizers.

With the invention of the West came the invention of Western history—an elevated and exclusive lineage that provided an historical justification for the Western domination. According to the English jurist and philosopher Francis Bacon, there were only three periods of learning and civilization in human history: “one among the Greeks, the second among the Romans, and the last among us, that is to say, the nations of Western Europe.”
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It was the privileged inheritance of Western Civilization, the cultural and intellectual correlate of race, that justified the differential treatment of different groups of Americans.
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Western Civilization is therefore not just a myth in the sense that it is a fiction that we tell ourselves, despite knowing that it is factually false. It is a myth that was invented to justify slavery, imperialism, and oppression. As such, it served the ideological needs of the time of its invention, reflecting the core values of the society that produced it.
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dxq4412

dxq4412

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Breadbox said:
Most people don't really hate Britain because it is far away and not an internationally relevant country (being a US lackey does not make one internationally relevant). But this is not true for Japan, Japanese militarism is unquestionably the product of the unhinged mental tendency of the average Japanese as early as the Meiji restoration, almost everyone is pro-invasion. The proliferation of militarist thoughts and foreign policy is a bottom up process through and through, non-warlike Japanese leaders were assassinated, University students would protests for more wars, more escalation, more invasions and seizing of more land.

Faction that opposes invasion or believe in genuine peace do not exist in the wider Japanese society until the moment they got nuked, the closest thing you have are government officials who believe that Japan isn't strong enough to invade everyone just yet.

There's no need to seek common ground with the average Japanese as there are none, Japan is an exceptional country is this regard, this is not applicable to any other country in the world. The more you read their history the more it is obvious that the only way that commonality that can be established with the Japanese is with a nuclear weapon.

The Japanese "people" are "victims" of militarism in the same way that a mass shooter who was shot dead by others defending themselves is a victim of gun violence, no one actually considers that the shooter to be "as much of a victim" as those it shot. The idea that Japanese militarism is a product of "Individual warlords" are just happy lies we tell ourselves.

Also(unrelated, just thought I would bring it up) Hu Yaobang can go fuck himself, imagine bending over backwards for right wing Japanese nationalist(Yasuhiro Nakasone) who pioneered wartime sexual slavery, reading the things that China used to do just to woo their investments make me throw up. Let me say this is again, the thing that popularized the practice of comfort women is elected back into office while holding the exact same view as he had pre-war. I wouldn't be surprised if alot of people wants revenge, won't feel a single ounce of remorse if it got itself nuked again
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Without a doubt, your view is one of the many opinions among the Chinese people towards Japan. Even among high-ranking members of the party, there are supporters. I will not comment on the right or wrong of Mao Zedong’s famous saying. For the founding fathers of our country, Mao Zedong’s judgment on Japan brought us many unexpected gains. These include the Japanese Liberation Army of the Fourth Field Army and Lin Yiyiichiro, a former pilot of the Japanese Kwantung Army Aviation Corps. These events prove that Japanese militarism is not invincible in terms of ideology and race. As long as we can win, there will be a breakthrough for continuous victory. This is also the original starting point of New China’s policy towards Japan: no matter how powerful Japan’s militarism brainwashing is and how bad the Japanese race is, our Chinese proletarian revolutionary ideas can defeat it. We can wash the brains of the Japanese people back and transform their evil thoughts. Of course, our active abandonment of the class struggle line and the abandonment of exporting revolutionary policies is another matter. Until 2016, there were still famous theorists within the party advocating for completely crushing the remnants of Japanese militarism before national rejuvenation. The specific content is not necessary to discuss.
 
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antiterror13

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56860 said:
This is by far the most cucked thing I've read in a while.

I can only hope the majority of the Chinese people and leadership do not share your thinking, or else China is sure to fall into another 100 years of national humiliation.

We Chinese in Singapore, a country of 4 million, have more dignity than you mainlanders. At least we do not spit on the graves of our ancestors.
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wait ..... who spit on the graves of our ancestors ?
 
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