Serbia is a country, other than China and Russia, to have suffered greatly yet has never compromised on morality. They are a strong people and will survive. They survived the Ottomans and the Austrians, they will survive yet more tyrants.
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I wish Serbia all the best in reclaiming their territories in Kosovo, Montenegro and parts of Bosnia.
But they're literally 1 small country against NATO at this point. I don't think it's the right time to do anything big.
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Uh, Serbia isn't exactly an underdog here. Like, didn't Serbia commit some of the worst war crimes in Europe since WW2 in Bosnia? Not to mention still has artworks in their capital devoted to genocidal generals such as Ratko Mladic?
One man terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. The Israelis Mossad kills a lot of innocent Palestinian and yet nobody called them a terrorist organization.
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What kind of freedom or greater principles were the Serbs fighting for exactly in Yugoslavia when they cleansed entire Bosniak cities, including women and children, and subjected a city of 400,000 people to a living hell for almost 3 years including indiscriminately sniping women and children whenever they came into view?
The Croatian did the same and also the Bosnian Muslim, the problem were amplify by Western MSM, you see in war, everything is justify including violence, the problem with Croatia and Bosnia is that early on they were weak militarily as majority of the Yugoslavia military sided with the Serb. Once NATO is involve you see the reverse with the Krajina Serb being a prime example, So yes I question the western narrative that only Serbia is the culprit, I may say that Croatia Franco Tudman had a lot of blood in his hand.
In any case, the victor write history... Ukraine will be rapidly forgetten by the west if they lose, Russia will be mudballed for life if they lose. We can see it each day on the news. 3 guys getting killed by a drone on an airbase in Russia is way worse than losing more than 200 ukrainian troops in one day...
Was the same for the Serb... any move they would do was amplified 20 times...
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Well agreed that war is war and you do what you have to do to win for the interests of your nation. On the other hand, genocidal wars based on ethnic supremacy, where soldiers become motivated to do things like impaling infants on bayonets for fun are almost always unsavory in nature.
If its in China's geopolitical interests to support the Serbs, then so be it. I'm just finding it funny another user is describing Serbia as a nation that "never compromised on morality" when their recent history is as blood soaked as Imperial Japan's and Nazi Germany's. And arguably has the same syndrome as Japan where genociders are still held up as war heroes.
Yes bro war is hell, and I wish that the Taiwan question will be resolved peacefully, the problem is the US. For the Americans, Chaos create opportunity, for them they want to recreate a fortress America or Arsenal of Democracy like in WW2, the ideal war. By having a war in Europe and in Asia will buttress their vulnerability while they rebuild by harvesting their allies, it's a wicked way to retained hegemony that's the reason for the Chinese passivity, as time goes by the American narrative is being question by all and the more desperate they become, so why give them the satisfaction.
I worked with a now deceased retired Colonel who served in the Yugoslavian Military before that country split into their own separate entities. He was a Bosnian Croat, was unfortunately tortured by the Serbian Military and only managed to escape his captivity through the help of his old comrades that were no serving in the Serbian Military to whom he was tasked to kill and vice-versa in war.
I managed to impress upon him due to the fact that I managed to read up on that awful conflict splitting friends against each other along ethnic lines written by what many had thought or assumed to become Americas SOS, Amb Richard Holbrooke in his book "To End A War." That's where I first learned of the geeky, loner, water walker in U.S. Army parlance regarding officers that are promoted so quickly like then Lt.Gen. Wes Clark who served as J-5 (responsible for Strategy) in the Joint Chief of Staff of the U.S. military who then wrote his own book about his own experience from that conflict in Europe that most people in America hardly paid attention to and frankly gave a shit about (Kosovo War of 1999) Waging Modern Wars.
I can't and good conscience defend what the Serbs did in that civil war. Europe was as incompetent then as they are now. They could not deal with their own issues because they never had any cohesive stance that can be back by a single entity strong enough to actually will that continent to do something tangible. Which is why the U.S. had to always bail those Europeans then and now. George Bush Sr. did not want to get involve with Europe's growing mess; Bill Clinton saw an opportunity to assert his lack of foreign policy credentials took it upon his administration to apparently take some tangible actions that were sorely missing from the previous Republican administration headed by then Pres. Bush Sr. Anyways, I could go on and on about that conflict because I read up on that pretty extensively and had worked with a fellow that suffered at the hands of his former comrade-at-arms in Yugoslav Military.