Will this move improve their chances of defending against the PLA?
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I wont take all those Medvedev predictions. Medvedev will be first Russian leader that specifically visited Silicon valley and Bollywood studio. his priorities were out of place. He wanted to create gadgets like Apple. but Putin may have associated California culture with tech industry. you have to think about it who was right.
Bro not against PLA BUT maybe a coup against the DPP, my brother in law who is a Taiwanese, we had a talk 3 days ago, there is a demoralization among the locals about their economic outlook, they need investment, a lot of investment instead what they're seeing is a capital flight with TSMC their crown jewel leading the way. He said that many of his friends had settled in Xiamen and other parts of Fujian and are doing good. He is trap, he is a chef by profession who can easily find employment in the mainland BUT with his aged he think he hasn't have the vigor. That for me is the microcosm of what happening in Taiwan, the DPP zap the energy of the Taiwanese people. I think there will be a reckoning Either fight the PLA and die for a useless gov't or launch a coup to prevent a war with China, He choose the latter....lol
This is good news to be honest. Now Taiwan is going to waste even more money training useless conscripts when a war of reunification would be fought in the seas and skies.
1 year is not nearly long enough for troops to learn to use vehicles/weapons effectively as a unit. They are almost certainly going to be just poorly trained, poorly armed infantrymen that are inconsequential in any real conflict
Just like what brother Ansy1968 said, this is probably the dumbest move that any politician can make.
What an idiot that Tsai is.
Remember, these are Chinese people we are talking about.
This mandatory conscription, will not have a rally around the flag effect.
"How come they are going to take us away? Does this mean there is going to be a war? Why does the government does not support peace?"
I cannot prove it, but this has always been my suspicion.
That the green, do not want to fight themselves, they want the blue to do the fighting.
But the blue hate the green, why fight for you? The blue would fight for themselves, but to fight for those green? They could fight for themselves.
Now here is Tsai, saying blue and green all must fight together.
This new policy, if it gets implemented, will induce at least two things.
There will be an awakening and realization.
1. It will raise the alarm of the Taiwan population. These are Chinese people. They will think if there is a war with China, there is no future. Because this war will never end until there is only one outcome.
2. If there is no future because of a war that will not end, no one will invest in Taiwan, capital will flee.
What seems remarkable here, is that militarily it does not look that good, and economically it seems to be going downhill, and yet, China has not really done anything.
All China has done is some grey-zone activities.
Taiwan does not seem to be able to handle that. What about a real war?
Looks like the old days are coming back. CCP will be soon dealing with the KMT again.
Bro IF Taiwan declare independence at the urging of US, the PLA will not use force BUT to implement a blockade, within a week you may see tank at the presidential palace pointing their gun on TSAI. And IF the Chinese sunk a US carrier, you may see SK and Japan declaring neutrality and forbade the use of US bases in their country.Just like what brother Ansy1968 said, this is probably the dumbest move that any politician can make.
What an idiot that Tsai is.
Remember, these are Chinese people we are talking about.
This mandatory conscription, will not have a rally around the flag effect.
"How come they are going to take us away? Does this mean there is going to be a war? Why does the government does not support peace?"
I cannot prove it, but this has always been my suspicion.
That the green, do not want to fight themselves, they want the blue to do the fighting.
But the blue hate the green, why fight for you? The blue would fight for themselves, but to fight for those green? They could fight for themselves.
Now here is Tsai, saying blue and green all must fight together.
This new policy, if it gets implemented, will induce at least two things.
There will be an awakening and realization.
1. It will raise the alarm of the Taiwan population. These are Chinese people. They will think if there is a war with China, there is no future. Because this war will never end until there is only one outcome.
2. If there is no future because of a war that will not end, no one will invest in Taiwan, capital will flee.
What seems remarkable here, is that militarily it does not look that good, and economically it seems to be going downhill, and yet, China has not really done anything.
All China has done is some grey-zone activities.
Taiwan does not seem to be able to handle that. What about a real war?
Looks like the old days are coming back. CCP will be soon dealing with the KMT again.
To face a bully you need to bring a bigger gun than your opponent or in a street fight better fighting technic. So I support an arm race with the US cause I know the Chinese will win this contest, it is more cheaper than going to War, economically it benefit the Chinese economy, socially it will become a rallying point for Chinese nationalism and geopolitically we gain Escalatory Dominance, meaning scaring the American vassal to submission without fighting.
Conscription is also a good way to turn your population anti-war.
Many young taiwanese currently support war/provocation against the PRC because they have a romanticised view of war and their armed forces. It's easy to say you'll fight when you've never actually even been to field training.
After 1 year of jungle trekking, digging holes and all the stupid things infantrymen have to do (while sweating your ass off and carrying heavy equipment etc), they'll probably realise that going to war and fighting in the jungle absolutely sucks.
They'll probably also realise how pointless resisting is after experiencing ROCAF leadership / planning / training
Many young taiwanese currently support war/provocation against the PRC because they have a romanticised view of war and their armed forces. It's easy to say you'll fight when you've never actually even been to field training.
After 1 year of jungle trekking, digging holes and all the stupid things infantrymen have to do (while sweating your ass off and carrying heavy equipment etc), they'll probably realise that going to war and fighting in the jungle absolutely sucks.
They'll probably also realise how pointless resisting is after experiencing ROCAF leadership / planning / training
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Meanwhile....
Energy crisis means a ‘very dark winter’ for Europe’s forests
NGOs say they speak for the trees, which they worry countries seem to be chopping as fast as they please.
Countries are sharply divided over what role forests should play in achieving the bloc's green goals | Ivo Panasyuk/AFP via Getty Images
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Guess what, natural beauty generates very little prosperity. You need industry and dense cities to prosper.
Oh boy this is going to piss off a significant portion of young Taiwanese as the extended duration is definitely going throw a spanner into their plans for the immediate future especially those slated to be conscripted from now till at least 2025. They could have minimize that number by implementing it in 2024-5 but here they are.