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Nobo

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India’s population has surpassed China’s, but its labor force is still lagging by a large margin​

We've entered the acceptance stage.

Though imo, labor force is least of india's problem,compared to other problems they face. Except call centers & IT Support, their "education" won't worth much.

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US Offers Nuclear-Test Inspections to Ease Russia, China Tension
I would say "No thank you, We love nuclear testing. It's a very good testing. Big & beautiful test"

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james smith esq

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Have you not have the privilege of knowing this legend from China ?

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Where would the Caucasians be, had they not stolen gunpowder?
Confined to the smallest racial-geographic territory extant, that tiny rump-continent, Europe, maybe?
And, afraid to explore other lands for fear of their inferiority to other races that they couldn’t easily exterminate?
 
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manqiangrexue

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Have you not have the privilege of knowing this legend from China ?

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I like Chen Weihua and all but I never thought this one reflected his talents. The comment isn't clever or anything. It would have been too easy to call the morals of American orgin into question. "Says the person from a country founded on the genocide of native Americans," or something. But just, "Bitch?" That's a playground answer.
 

Aniah

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I like Chen Weihua and all but I never thought this one reflected his talents. The comment isn't clever or anything. It would have been too easy to call the morals of American orgin into question. "Says the person from a country founded on the genocide of native Americans," or something. But just, "Bitch?" That's a playground answer.
Yes, but it sure resonated with the Americans and westerners in general. Nothing more American than calling your opponent a bitch,
 

Sardaukar20

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I worry for China's next generation of leaders. Rash actions and arrogance will be the end of everything China's has gained. The Americans want another Cold War because they believe since they won the last one they can win another one. China knows this and so far hasn't played the game the Americans wants China to play. You move with irrationality and you end up like Russia.
Who are those next generation of China's leaders that you know of? Do you have names? Are you privy to the inner world of the CPC? Or do you assume future Chinese leaders are like that just by reading what posters write on this forum? China's next generation of leaders will not be elected into power by a mass of nationalistic, short-term thinking voters. They will be tested, evaluated, groomed, and qualified by a meritocratic system that is far wiser the common voters. Populist, and nationalistic imbeciles like Trump, Trudeau, Modi, Yoon, Marcos Jr. or Milei will have no chance of coming close to becoming top leaders in China. So you don't have to worry about the future of China's leadership. Bottom line is: China is not the same as Russia or any other common democracies. You are quite arrogant with how you think that you know China and Russia.

How the USSR fell is a complex process. But one of the big contributing factors is that it became yet another imperialist empire despite starting out with socialist roots. The USSR played its empire games in Europe, the Middle East, and in Asia. It could not accept China, a nation that was supposedly be beneath it, becoming a major player in Asia. It was fighting the Western bloc in the West, and China in the East at the same time. It needed to sustain the Warsaw Pact in the West. It needed to put millions of troops on the borders facing China, as well prop-up its Asian allies against China. It had to meddle in Afghanistan to save one of its few Asian allies bordering China. The USSR basically overextended, and its economy couldn't keep up. Why couldn't its economy keep up? Because it was a military-first economy, not unlike that of the imperial powers of old like the Russian Empire, and German Empire. When common Soviet citizens become increasingly unhappy, the central authority loses its grip on power. Had the USSR trusted China as an partner, it would have been able to sustain the Cold War with the West with far less strain on its economy.

By the time the Soviets realized that they were in trouble, it still wasn't too late. But it was that naivety that it can join the Western club that sealed its final doom. Instead of thinking for itself and gradually evolving according to own circumstances, the Soviets wanted to become like the West overnight. In its desperation, it made a deal with the devil: The West. The end result was the fall, and the ongoing calamity of the post-Soviet regions that we see till today. The Soviet Union's fall was mostly of its own doing. Putin lamented the fall of the Soviet Union as a grave tragedy. The leader of the Russian Communist Party, Zyuganov lamented that had the Soviet Union learned from Deng's reforms in China, it wouldn't have collapsed.

You're gravely mistaken into thinking that China is gonna follow the path of the USSR or Russia. China is following its own path; it is not walking into any US Cold War trap. China is not playing empire out there. Whatever territorial disputes that China is engaged right now is actually defending its own legitimate territorial claims. If you look at the map, these hotspots are actually around China's periphery. China does not maintain overseas territories off the coast of the US or Europe. China's military is big, but its mainly concentrated at home. Whatever overseas forces that China deploys is for anti-piracy, and anti-terrorist operations. And those overseas forces were deployed there on the invitation and approval of the host countries and the UN. China doesn't have a permanent PLA deployment in Pakistan to face India. China doesn't have a PLAN fleet on permanent deployment in the Indian Ocean or the Mediterranean Sea. China is not in any grand military alliance like NATO, or the CSTO. The SCO is not an equivalent to NATO, because there are no binding obligations to militarily defend member states. BRI is not an empire, because while China does have overwhelming economic power, it makes deals with nations on a roughly equal footing, instead of forcing its will on them. If anything, recipients of BRI have often abused deals with China with no serious consequences. Try telling the IMF that you can't pay your debts, and suddenly wanting to walk away from a deal.

Finally, I would argue that it is the US that is walking into its very own Cold War trap. The US is engaged in wars, its military is stretched around the world, and it had to maintain its numerous bases and fleets. The US economy is over-leveraged to the point of impossible recovery. Foreign opinions of the US are falling rapidly, no matter how much its media tries to spin it. The US military and elites are swimming in dollars, while the average US citizen is suffering from a rapid fall in living standards. The US can't even maintain its infrastructure, let alone build new ones. American streets are filling up with drugs, the homeless, crime, insanity, and depravity. This doesn't look like a superpower in its prime, it looks more like a sick man. Yet it still wants to start a Cold War with a much healthier superpower who is not interested in one. The last one certainly killed a superpower. The current one is killing another superpower, and that is not China.
 

ansy1968

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Who are those next generation of China's leaders that you know of? Do you have names? Are you privy to the inner world of the CPC? Or do you assume future Chinese leaders are like that just by reading what posters write on this forum? China's next generation of leaders will not be elected into power by a mass of nationalistic, short-term thinking voters. They will be tested, evaluated, groomed, and qualified by a meritocratic system that is far wiser the common voters. Populist, and nationalistic imbeciles like Trump, Trudeau, Modi, Yoon, Marcos Jr. or Milei will have no chance of coming close to becoming top leaders in China. So you don't have to worry about the future of China's leadership. Bottom line is: China is not the same as Russia or any other common democracies. You are quite arrogant with how you think that you know China and Russia.

How the USSR fell is a complex process. But one of the big contributing factors is that it became yet another imperialist empire despite starting out with socialist roots. The USSR played its empire games in Europe, the Middle East, and in Asia. It could not accept China, a nation that was supposedly be beneath it, becoming a major player in Asia. It was fighting the Western bloc in the West, and China in the East at the same time. It needed to sustain the Warsaw Pact in the West. It needed to put millions of troops on the borders facing China, as well prop-up its Asian allies against China. It had to meddle in Afghanistan to save one of its few Asian allies bordering China. The USSR basically overextended, and its economy couldn't keep up. Why couldn't its economy keep up? Because it was a military-first economy, not unlike that of the imperial powers of old like the Russian Empire, and German Empire. When common Soviet citizens become increasingly unhappy, the central authority loses its grip on power. Had the USSR trusted China as an partner, it would have been able to sustain the Cold War with the West with far less strain on its economy.

By the time the Soviets realized that they were in trouble, it still wasn't too late. But it was that naivety that it can join the Western club that sealed its final doom. Instead of thinking for itself and gradually evolving according to own circumstances, the Soviets wanted to become like the West overnight. In its desperation, it made a deal with the devil: The West. The end result was the fall, and the ongoing calamity of the post-Soviet regions that we see till today. The Soviet Union's fall was mostly of its own doing. Putin lamented the fall of the Soviet Union as a grave tragedy. The leader of the Russian Communist Party, Zyuganov lamented that had the Soviet Union learned from Deng's reforms in China, it wouldn't have collapsed.

You're gravely mistaken into thinking that China is gonna follow the path of the USSR or Russia. China is following its own path; it is not walking into any US Cold War trap. China is not playing empire out there. Whatever territorial disputes that China is engaged right now is actually defending its own legitimate territorial claims. If you look at the map, these hotspots are actually around China's periphery. China does not maintain overseas territories off the coast of the US or Europe. China's military is big, but its mainly concentrated at home. Whatever overseas forces that China deploys is for anti-piracy, and anti-terrorist operations. And those overseas forces were deployed there on the invitation and approval of the host countries and the UN. China doesn't have a permanent PLA deployment in Pakistan to face India. China doesn't have a PLAN fleet on permanent deployment in the Indian Ocean or the Mediterranean Sea. China is not in any grand military alliance like NATO, or the CSTO. The SCO is not an equivalent to NATO, because there are no binding obligations to militarily defend member states. BRI is not an empire, because while China does have overwhelming economic power, it makes deals with nations on a roughly equal footing, instead of forcing its will on them. If anything, recipients of BRI have often abused deals with China with no serious consequences. Try telling the IMF that you can't pay your debts, and suddenly wanting to walk away from a deal.

Finally, I would argue that it is the US that is walking into its very own Cold War trap. The US is engaged in wars, its military is stretched around the world, and it had to maintain its numerous bases and fleets. The US economy is over-leveraged to the point of impossible recovery. Foreign opinions of the US are falling rapidly, no matter how much its media tries to spin it. The US military and elites are swimming in dollars, while the average US citizen is suffering from a rapid fall in living standards. The US can't even maintain its infrastructure, let alone build new ones. American streets are filling up with drugs, the homeless, crime, insanity, and depravity. This doesn't look like a superpower in its prime, it looks more like a sick man. Yet it still wants to start a Cold War with a much healthier superpower who is not interested in one. The last one certainly killed a superpower. The current one is killing another superpower, and that is not China.
Not only that bro, the CCP had set up a committee to study the collapse of the Soviet Union and you know the Chinese they will internalized it.

Also Xi had implement the Mao inspired back to the countryside for future cadre selection to ensure that future leaders will have the same passion and dedication as him.
 

plawolf

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majoring in humanities or social science is how you min-max your opportunity to become homeless and/or selling yourself as a prostitute. either the sexual or propaganda kind.

That’s a feature, not a bug.

To be peak effective at propaganda, one needs to be utterly without morals, principles, scruples, self respect or a sense of shame; yet at the same time one needs to be well educated, articulate and charismatic. Essentially, you need street-scum level bottom-feeder personality traits with ‘well-bred’ high-class education and upbringing.

These two aspects are usually contradictory and rarely found in the same individual, because while true street trash bottom feeders easily have all of the character flaws of the personal specification part of the job spec, they won’t have the educational and charisma requirements for the technical aspects of the job spec. High-borne elites have all the advantages of education and upbringing, but that education and upbringing generally also teaches them class and self respect so they will struggle to lower themselves to do street-scum level deeds.

And this is where humanities, media studies and other totally invented and utterly useless degrees comes in.

These worthless and useless courses are both a filtering process as well a prepping tool. To do well in these sorts of subjects, you need to be able to be mentally and morally ‘flexible’ to believe and say whatever is required to get the best grades. Objective truth and reality is actively discouraged. Any training on the use and interpretation of empirical evidence is focused more on twisting it to suit the required narrative than to try to extract any scientifically valuable insight and understanding.

At the end of their studies, the most suitable get cherry picked for government positions while the rest can ’mature’ some more in growing ever more desperate as student loan debts and lack of career opportunities and a never-ending media diet of influencers flaunting their millionaire lifestyles start to systematically erase their scruples, morals and anything else that might hold them back from being a well-educated sociopath, at which point they finally ready to start their career in propaganda by starting in the media.

China is bad at propaganda because they don’t put their best and brightest through such a crucible of moral eraser. Indeed, the Chinese system focuses on weeding out the sociopaths early and limiting their reach and influence, not produce them on an industrial scale and putting them in the top government and media jobs.

Another big factor is that while the press secretary is one of the most influential people in the White House, with a direct role in deciding how the government respond to issues and sets government policy on key national and international issues, in China, they actually decide policy and approach based purely on what is best for China’s national interest and try to sell that. So of course they are going to have a harder time winning social media points compared to western government policy set from the offset to generate likes instead of benefits for the country and people.

That is why while the west is supposedly ‘winning’ the propaganda war, their people grow ever more disillusioned and dissatisfied with their governments while Chinese people’s lives gets better and their trust and approval of their leaders increase as a result. You decide which approach and outcome you prefer.
 
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