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mishaknive

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That is the problem: They believe.

These humanities graduates in D.C. have a vision of reality probably more grounded in 70s and 80s cold war fantasy novels than in the real complexity of the modern world.

Iraq was supposed to be a few months war and ended up being the biggest foreign policy disaster ever with consequences that will last decades.


Tell that to US politicians.


They Chinese are clearly playing but their own way.
I know a lot of people here and china look down on humanities/social science major but in my opinion it's not healthy in general. Humanity/Social Science is useful in some area. A good example is related to media/propaganda.. Chinese propaganda is clumsy in general because the government is hiring wrong guy in charge. In general, nobody hired a STEM graduate for marketing purpose. Like, the Taliban understand how to use meme while i doubt the older guy in propaganda department understand meme and how to use it.
 

Chevalier

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You ought to know that American victory in the cold war was not won by America and its western allies alone. There's a growing body of evidence that's been widely known in the academic, government officials in both defense and state in the U.S. retired and currently serving that China/PRC played a very important role in bringing down the former Soviet Union.

From China's border and ideological war with the Soviet Union in it's periphery, namely with Vietnam, Africa, Afghanistan, Pakistan. CHINA bled the USSR by overstretching thereby overcomitting its blood and treasure from East and West, ensuring the economic demise of then USSR.

Name, one country or at least actions both current and retired within China's leadership to even support your fears that you are beginning to concern yourself with? How has China handled its long standing relationship with the continent of Africa? Has China become more demanding? Has it demanded any and or some of the African leaders to be replaced when it ran afoul with the Chinese interest?

Aren't you being a little too dramatic if not, a bit too dramatic with that misguided and unfounded fears of yours?
And just like famous Anglo American gratefulness to China for bailing them out of the 08 GFC, the Anglo Americans repaid the Chinese with the pivot to Asia.

I know a lot of people here and china look down on humanities/social science major but in my opinion it's not healthy in general. Humanity/Social Science is useful in some area. A good example is related to media/propaganda.. Chinese propaganda is clumsy in general because the government is hiring wrong guy in charge. In general, nobody hired a STEM graduate for marketing purpose. Like, the Taliban understand how to use meme while i doubt the older guy in propaganda department understand meme and how to use it.
You can’t teach “soft power” any more than you can teach someone how to “be cool”, and China already has a mature record of the humanities ie Chinese philosophy and Chinese culture and modern data analysis.
western social sciences have morphed into the peculiar sexually repressed crusades of whichever tenured college professor has a bone to pick with society eg Andrea dworkin.

As if the Anglo Americans are better at getting the people to do what they want with their instruments of propaganda; the lack of military recruitment despite the echo chamber of Anglo propaganda and the trend of “spot the fed/ glowie“ on twitter and 4chan reveals the well oiled propaganda machine of the anglos is losing its edge.

In fact, all this talk about how china needs to boost “social sciences” and “legal professionals” are simply coming from overpaid consultants like McKinsey et al whose solution is conveniently the hiring of yet more consultants, especially the children of said consultants who followed their parents footsteps.
 

Bellum_Romanum

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Snippet from the article of which the author failed to provide a convincing argument on why his country (U.S.) must do away with building super carriers:

The supercarrier debate took on a new urgency after China
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the Dong Feng DF-21D missile in 2010. The DF-21D is the
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long-range precision missile developed specifically to target aircraft carriers. It was followed in 2020 by the longer-range
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. Both
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are nicknamed “carrier-killer.”
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and
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say they’re developing carrier-killers on the Chinese model, too. We don’t know how capable these new missiles are; China has only conducted one known test on a moving target, back in 2020, and didn’t publicize the result, which probably means it failed. Still, missile-guidance technology has made enormous progress in recent years, and it stands to reason that the bigger an aircraft carrier is, the easier it will be for a carrier-killer to hit it.

“The march of technology,”
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Navy Capt. Henry J. Hendrix, now retired, and Marine Lt. Col. J. Noel Williams, also retired, in the Naval Institute’s
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Proceedings, “is bringing the supercarrier era to an end, just as the new long-range strike capabilities of carrier aviation brought on the demise of the battleship era in the 1940s.” Hendrix and Williams’s article was headlined “
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.” It was published a dozen years ago. Since then, the Navy has allocated more than $50 billion toward building even more supercarriers. If we stopped building Ford Class supercarriers right now,
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the Congressional Budget Office, we could save $18 billion over the next decade....
 

FairAndUnbiased

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I know a lot of people here and china look down on humanities/social science major but in my opinion it's not healthy in general. Humanity/Social Science is useful in some area. A good example is related to media/propaganda.. Chinese propaganda is clumsy in general because the government is hiring wrong guy in charge. In general, nobody hired a STEM graduate for marketing purpose. Like, the Taliban understand how to use meme while i doubt the older guy in propaganda department understand meme and how to use it.
There's plenty of humanities and social science majors in China:

English (foreign language) is #2. Law is #4. Chinese literature is #6. Chinese literature used to be higher.

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China has 3000 years of art, culture and literature, and 2500 of it were pretty good (late Shang early Zhou not so good).

In the US the top majors are neither physical sciences/engineering nor humanities/social sciences. In particular, few study either English literature nor foreign languages.

They're business, health and psychology.

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siegecrossbow

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There's plenty of humanities and social science majors in China:

English (foreign language) is #2. Law is #4. Chinese literature is #6. Chinese literature used to be higher.

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China has 3000 years of art, culture and literature, and 2500 of it were pretty good (late Shang early Zhou not so good).

In the US the top majors are neither physical sciences/engineering nor humanities/social sciences. In particular, few study either English literature nor foreign languages.

They're business, health and psychology.

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I doubt they can compete with Chinese dishwashing robots if they try the illegal immigration thing.
 

Bellum_Romanum

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You ought to know that American victory in the cold war was not won by America and its western allies alone. There's a growing body of evidence that's been widely known in the academic, government officials in both defense and state in the U.S. retired and currently serving that China/PRC played a very important role in bringing down the former Soviet Union.

From China's border and ideological war with the Soviet Union in it's periphery, namely with Vietnam, Africa, Afghanistan, Pakistan. CHINA bled the USSR by overstretching thereby overcomitting its blood and treasure from East and West, ensuring the economic demise of then USSR.

Name, one country or at least actions both current and retired within China's leadership to even support your fears that you are beginning to concern yourself with? How has China handled its long standing relationship with the continent of Africa? Has China become more demanding? Has it demanded any and or some of the African leaders to be replaced when it ran afoul with the Chinese interest?

Aren't you being a little too dramatic if not, a bit too dramatic with that misguided and unfounded fears of yours?
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siegecrossbow

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I know a lot of people here and china look down on humanities/social science major but in my opinion it's not healthy in general. Humanity/Social Science is useful in some area. A good example is related to media/propaganda.. Chinese propaganda is clumsy in general because the government is hiring wrong guy in charge. In general, nobody hired a STEM graduate for marketing purpose. Like, the Taliban understand how to use meme while i doubt the older guy in propaganda department understand meme and how to use it.

Chinese humanities majors are great at propaganda — Western propaganda.
 

CMP

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I know a lot of people here and china look down on humanities/social science major but in my opinion it's not healthy in general. Humanity/Social Science is useful in some area. A good example is related to media/propaganda.. Chinese propaganda is clumsy in general because the government is hiring wrong guy in charge. In general, nobody hired a STEM graduate for marketing purpose. Like, the Taliban understand how to use meme while i doubt the older guy in propaganda department understand meme and how to use it.
majoring in humanities or social science is how you min-max your opportunity to become homeless and/or selling yourself as a prostitute. either the sexual or propaganda kind.
 
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