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Africablack

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I just learned something from you! When you can't debate someone's points, put out meaningless irrelvant little remarks to make it look like you had an answer!
I gave you an answer already, you weren't paying attention. You were the one who came up with the "worry about Africa" bit so I just ignored everything you said after that and concluded you are a young'un that will (hopefully) learn as you get older. I remember the last Cold War and how the Russians foolishly went toe to toe and saw them crumble trying to play the game the west drawing them into, the Russian arrogance was overwhelming, they believed the future belonged to them. They ended up imploding spectacularly. Learn lessons and discard the arrogance and irrationality. China has done well for itself but don't think for a minute it can't all go tits up due to foolish decision making. I'll leave it at that.
 

manqiangrexue

Brigadier
I gave you an answer already, you weren't paying attention.
Uh, no. I proved your answer was even more wrong than your initial statement because at least your initial statement expressed a view while your answer was incoherent and contradicted itself failing to realize that reacting and arguing with someone was the same thing.
You were the one who came up with the "worry about Africa" bit
Guess where that came from, Mr. Not-A-Chinese-Person-Worrying-About-China?
so I just ignored everything you said after that
Just so you know, ignoring someone and arguing poorly against him are not the same thing.
and concluded you are a young'un that will (hopefully) learn as you get older.
I learn every day. It's the old people who can't learn any new info and continue to live in the past... like the Cold War LOL
I remember the last Cold War
There it is LOL
and how the Russians foolishly went toe to toe and saw them crumble trying to play the game the west drawing them into, the Russian arrogance was overwhelming, they believed the future belonged to them. They ended up imploding spectacularly.
Uh huh... so basically, according to your old knowledge-crusted mind, if A loses a boxing match against B, then C will also lose such a match against B? He has to Taekwondo kick him or something? Do you... watch any sports?
Learn lessons and discard the arrogance and irrationality.
Tell that to the people who lost the trade and tech war they started. LOL Tell that to yourself cus with the way you write I don't even think you know what "irrational" means to be accusing others.
China has done well for itself but don't think for a minute it can't all go tits up due to foolish decision making. I'll leave it at that.
Yeah, it can. If liberals who cater China's actions to care about what the West thinks and says, it'll all go tits up (but not as tits up as Africa on its best day, so I'd recommend you save your wise governance for them). If they are scared to throw China's power around like you, things will go south. But that's not happening; we have built our strength and are ready to fight and win. So you watch like a good fan, and don't interrupt the team with your backseat drivin' now, ya hear?
 
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pmc

Major
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You move with irrationality and you end up like Russia.
Certain things are too complex to understand unless person is following it diligently for long time. how do you think Russia gain this level of soft power in global south?. This is now translating into concrete results in demographics, culture, finances, military industrial complex , training, logistics, high end R&D and infrastructure that has gone beyond West. Moscow metro ridership approaching Tokyo metropolitan with less population. After MBS vacation in Oman its immediate Russian visit. Alot of things revolves around Russia in Africa, Mideast, South Asia you just need to understand it. why will Russia care about Europe with its declining population mix with foreigners. infact de industrialization of Europe will slowdown heatwaves and warm winters that can impact Russia. there is nothing irrational when you look at logically.
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plawolf

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It has been 5 years but the US still has not been able to remove Huawei and ZTE's network and communication equipment. Every month, someone would say something about removing Huawei and ZTE equipment but no action is taken.
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Wait, shouldn’t they have achieved their goal by default by now from just normal wear and tear replacements? Or have Huawei and ZTE broken even more western cardinal rules by not building in self destructs into all their equipment so it trashes itself after 3-5 years and forces consumers to buy replacements like western gear?
 

Bellum_Romanum

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I worry for China's next generation of leaders. Rash actions and arrogance will be the end of everything China's has gained. The Americans want another Cold War because they believe since they won the last one they can win another one. China knows this and so far hasn't played the game the Americans wants China to play. You move with irrationality and you end up like Russia.
You ought to know that American victory in the cold war was not won by America and its western allies alone. There's a growing body of evidence that's been widely known in the academic, government officials in both defense and state in the U.S. retired and currently serving that China/PRC played a very important role in bringing down the former Soviet Union.

From China's border and ideological war with the Soviet Union in it's periphery, namely with Vietnam, Africa, Afghanistan, Pakistan. CHINA bled the USSR by overstretching thereby overcomitting its blood and treasure from East and West, ensuring the economic demise of then USSR.

Name, one country or at least actions both current and retired within China's leadership to even support your fears that you are beginning to concern yourself with? How has China handled its long standing relationship with the continent of Africa? Has China become more demanding? Has it demanded any and or some of the African leaders to be replaced when it ran afoul with the Chinese interest?

Aren't you being a little too dramatic if not, a bit too dramatic with that misguided and unfounded fears of yours?
 

siegecrossbow

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You ought to know that American victory in the cold war was not won by America and its western allies alone. There's a growing body of evidence that's been widely known in the academic, government officials in both defense and state in the U.S. retired and currently serving that China/PRC played a very important role in bringing down the former Soviet Union.

From China's border and ideological war with the Soviet Union in it's periphery, namely with Vietnam, Africa, Afghanistan, Pakistan. CHINA bled the USSR by overstretching thereby overcomitting its blood and treasure from East and West, ensuring the economic demise of then USSR.

Name, one country or at least actions both current and retired within China's leadership to even support your fears that you are beginning to concern yourself with? How has China handled its long standing relationship with the continent of Africa? Has China become more demanding? Has it demanded any and or some of the African leaders to be replaced when it ran afoul with the Chinese interest?

Aren't you being a little too dramatic if not, a bit too dramatic with that misguided and unfounded fears of yours?

Not to mention that the PRC was incorporated as a manufacturer of cheap consumer goods for Western countries.
 

56860

Senior Member
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I worry for China's next generation of leaders. Rash actions and arrogance will be the end of everything China's has gained. The Americans want another Cold War because they believe since they won the last one they can win another one. China knows this and so far hasn't played the game the Americans wants China to play. You move with irrationality and you end up like Russia.
You're giving burgerland too much credit. The USSR brought down itself through catastrophically horrendous leadership. Should you be credited with 'winning' if all that needed to be done was wait?

PRC and USSR should not be mentioned in the same breath. Burgers need to be knocked down a rung (read: thoroughly humiliated). They need to have it drilled into their fat skulls that there is absolutely nothing special about their nation, people, culture, or place in history, or 'manifest destiny'. PRC will be the country to hand them that humiliation.
 
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