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NiuBiDaRen

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In response government affiliated groups posted historical statements from Nike, H&M, Adidas, Gap, Fila, New Balance, Zara, and Under Armour expressing their concerns about using cotton from the Xinjiang region on social media, alleging they were “spreading rumours to boycott Xianjiang cotton”.

The brands have now been added to a “blacklist” seeing Chinese shoppers boycott the brands entirely, and many have been removed from online shopping sites.

The Chinese gov is going for the kill, look at all these companies targeted... China wants to basically delete all these western companies from its market.
This is when cancel culture is useful - CANCEL THEM ALL!
 

NiuBiDaRen

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The boycott is now being picked up by western media which is excellent.
What I've noticed is lots of people brained washed by western media think somehow the Chinese people secretly hate CPC, this boycott will hopefully set some of them straight.

Also:
Last night I was mulling coming up with a website featuring clothing exclusively sourced from Xinjiang. So Chinese people can support Xinjiang cotton. Seems like MUJI has done it.

Which is the opposite of what Uniqlo did. We have one intelligent Japanese company, and one lemming Japanese company.
 

texx1

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It's been often argued by sound, rationale, and objective military-political-business strategists that taking or making foreign policy advice based on polling or popular support is never ever a good thing or beneficial for the country long term.

Take the Iraq War II for example, that war waged by the U.S. is seen and judged by most astute strategists and lay person as the worst strategic blunder America made. The costs in terms of money, blood, and reputation not to mention their time wasted in Iraq left them distracted from their geo strategic foe that's China. It eluded America's attention long enough for the country to leap frog and advance it's economy, modernized its military and become a threat as a peer competitor in a short span.

But that piror to that war happening, the American people with all their supposed wisdom had a 91% support for the planned invasion since most of them were idiots led to believe that Saddam had something to do with 911 attacks. None of them believed the U.N. inspections as being truthful when it declared that Saddam and Iraq were in compliance because their minds were poison and easily led astray by the very same media (liberal, conservative) that Saddam is not to be trusted and that liberating Iraq means helping Iraqi from "human rights" violation from the evil regime.

You can't find or will be hard pressed to find any sane individual worth his or her salt to agree or assess the Iraq War as sound, prudent, or strategically important.

Chiang Kai shek didn't respect Chinese public opinion to focus its main effort on Japanese invaders instead of CCP. His inaction turned out to be a great propaganda coup for the CCP to rally support and showed KMT was more concerned with its own rule than the country. The rest shall we say is history.

Public opinion must be taken into account but must not be used as the final arbiter or be used as the primary driver in any policy formulations, proposals and actions. But of course in a "Democracy" that would be suicidal since politicians being politicians will use whatever it can muster for its own survival, victory and demise over it's political rivals.

Public opinion is a fickle beast that should be carefully managed and oftentimes respected. It's ultimately a high-impact risk and benefit assessment for the politicians.
 

supercat

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H&M has been blocked on Chinese map apps. So you won't be able to find H&M on a digital map in China:p.
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Stocks for German sportswear manufacturer Adidas fell down by 5.6 percent at 1:13 pm GMT, making it the biggest loser on the German blue chip index DAX.

Shares for U.S. sportswear maker Nike were down almost 4 percent in premarket trading on Thursday.

However, shares of China's domestic sports brands surged as more consumers called to support local brands.

Chinese fast-fashion brand Metersbonwe and Ribo Fashion surged by 10 percent in A-share market on Thursday.

Shares of Chinese sportswear brand Li Ning surged by over 10 percent in Hong Kong, while Anta Sports jumped by over 8 percent after saying it is starting the process to quit the BCI.
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horse

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How would you guys interpret Saudi Arabia's declaration they would 'prioritize meeting China's energy needs over the next 50 years'? Is it just fluff, or is there substance to it?
It is a really big piece of news.

First, we have to remember some ancient history. The Americans were the biggest customer of Suadi oil. That was back in the 1970's and maybe parts of the 1980's. That was a long time ago, do not remember.

Second, China today is the biggest customer of Saudi oil.
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Third, the gasoline powered engine is being legislated out of existence, due some time in the future for cars. Petroleum is a declining industry.

Fourth, probably the most important, The Kingdom has to think of the future, where oil revenue will be lower. The Kingdom uses the oil revenue to make the state budget.

This is the part where China comes in. Saudi oil sold to China, in return Chinese consumer goods come to Saudi Arabia. They do not need to use dollars for that trade, they will eventually just use RMB.

Also, the Chinese will be coming in with other investments and enterprises, diversifying the Saudi economy.
 

Bellum_Romanum

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Chiang Kai shek didn't respect Chinese public opinion to focus its main effort on Japanese invaders instead of CCP. His inaction turned out to be a great propaganda coup for the CCP to rally support and showed KMT was more concerned with its own rule than the country. The rest shall we say is history.



Public opinion is a fickle beast that should be carefully managed and oftentimes respected. It's ultimately a high-impact risk and benefit assessment for the politicians.
The problem with your example of using Jiang's ignoring popular support in combating the Japanese invaders an example to support your argument for utilizing "public support" errs 2 fundamental assumptions. For one thing, the country was mired in a civil war conflict to wage war as to which of the two main parties will control and govern all of China. The KMT did not i represent the will of the majority of the Chinese people. And as for their support in dealing with the Japanese it made more sense since the existence of the country as a single nation was in major jeopardy because of the already known Japanese intentions, actions, atrocities in the untold hundreds of thousands versus a political rival that's Chinese in mind, body, and spirit. Not to mention that Jiang's own military and political figures within his ranks held the same strategic view which forced his hand by compelling him through abduction that his plans are road to ruin not just for the KMT but for the existence of China as a country.

Secondly, the choice Jiang made was rightfully seen as pigheaded and FUBAR. The war in Iraq II was a WAR OF CHOICE not of necessity. The U.S. was not in immediate threat of invasion or annihilation from a spent force that's been devastated in lack of materiale supply not to mention shitty training, antiquated command and control training, battle tactics that weren't updated to fight the most advanced military in the world. The threat American public thought was a "threat" was entirely based on "perception" cooked up and pushed by their media, public and private officials both civilians and retired military officers who now wants to cash that defense money

And as John Mearsheimer often said, it doesn't take long for the American public to be whipped up by the media-security-military industrial complex to be led into believing that country a, b, c, d, is an existential threat to their way of life.
 

texx1

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The problem with your example of using Jiang's ignoring popular support in combating the Japanese invaders an example to support your argument for utilizing "public support" errs 2 fundamental assumptions. For one thing, the country was mired in a civil war conflict to wage war as to which of the two main parties will control and govern all of China. The KMT did not i represent the will of the majority of the Chinese people. And as for their support in dealing with the Japanese it made more sense since the existence of the country as a single nation was in major jeopardy because of the already known Japanese intentions, actions, atrocities in the untold hundreds of thousands versus a political rival that's Chinese in mind, body, and spirit. Not to mention that Jiang's own military and political figures within his ranks held the same strategic view which forced his hand by compelling him through abduction that his plans are road to ruin not just for the KMT but for the existence of China as a country.

Secondly, the choice Jiang made was rightfully seen as pigheaded and FUBAR. The war in Iraq II was a WAR OF CHOICE not of necessity. The U.S. was not in immediate threat of invasion or annihilation from a spent force that's been devastated in lack of materiale supply not to mention shitty training, antiquated command and control training, battle tactics that weren't updated to fight the most advanced military in the world. The threat American public thought was a "threat" was entirely based on "perception" cooked up and pushed by their media, public and private officials both civilians and retired military officers who now wants to cash that defense money

And as John Mearsheimer often said, it doesn't take long for the American public to be whipped up by the media-security-military industrial complex to be led into believing that country a, b, c, d, is an existential threat to their way of life.

My KMT example was intended to show disrespecting public opinion at your own peril especially when sovereignty and internal affairs are concerned.

Iraqi war could have been less of a quagmire if US started an earlier and more decisive pullout when the public opinion turned against the war starting from 2006. In essence, US politicians stopped listening to public the moment its view was no longer aligned with the interest of politicians and elites.
 

supercat

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The saga continues:
Dilraba Dilmurat, the most famous Uyghur actress in China with 77 million followers which more than the entire population of UK or France, she has terminated all cooperation with Adidas! How dare you Adidas! You cooperated with Dilraba then you looked back to insult her hometown?

Chinese actor Wang Yibo who starred in "Untamed" announced he will stop all promo work with Nike.
 
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