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BoraTas

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I feel that escalating the ban for Europe is a bad move. Essentially Biden is able to sabotage a trade agreement between China and Europe without making any economic concessions from the American side. China could’ve gone tit for tat instead of going all out with the sanctions.

But now that China has essentially solidified an alliance with Russia it might be too late for rapproachment with Europe anyway.
I don't agree. Sanctioning a country must have consequences even if it is just for internal politics or appeasing a third country. Especially if the sanctions are unprovoked, interferes with internal affairs and comes with genocide allegations. These actions damage China's reputation, and reputation is exactly what China has problems with. The Chinese economy is bound to grow anyway.
 

windsclouds2030

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That Time A Leaked Memo Proved The US Weaponizes 'Human Rights' Against Nations Like China

By CAITLIN JOHNSTONE - March 23, 2021

The US, UK, EU and Canada have simultaneously implemented new sanctions against Chinese officials in yet another reminder that these nations consistently function as member states of a SINGLE EMPIRE ON FOREIGN POLICY, and that the Biden administration is CONTINUING RIGHT WHERE the Trump administration left off on anti-China hawkishness.

A leaked State Department memo officially confirms the open secret we all knew: when the US government expresses concerns about so-called "human rights," it doesn't actually care about human rights; it's just a cheap political tactic to demonize US enemies

So if it wasn't already clear to you that the US empire is FAKING ITS CONCERN for the wellbeing of Muslim lives (and a quick glance at America's actions in the Middle East should make that read like the punchline of a bad joke anyway), it should be clear to you now. Neither Washington nor its vassal states harbor any interest in protecting the interests of the Uyghurs in Xinjiang, they are only using that narrative to, as Brian Hook put it, "impose costs, apply counter-pressure, and regain the initiative from them strategically." This is exactly what a steadily escalating international sanctions campaign helps accomplish.

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voyager1

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This is a Russian state media article however I think it explains well of the EU-China sanctions dynamics.

Basically the low ranking Xinjiang official sanctioned means that the EU doesn't have the appetite to go further in sanctioning. So the US took the deal and sanctioned these low officials.

Good analysis from RT on this one
 

Kaeshmiri

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The deal is gone. Period.
The loss is of EU. The CAI was essentially about EU firms trying to access the Chinese market (esp financial services) on par with Americans (who got their entry through the Phase 1 trade deal).
If they want to trash the deal then so be it. China is least affected by it.
This also shows how sneaky the Americans are. They provoked Australia to be a lapdog, China retaliated and the loss in trade was compensated by US. (benefit to American firms.)
Again in CAI , Americans already got their entry but sabotaged EUs entry into the Chinese market. Again the winner are American firms who face less competition.
 

BrightFuture

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The loss is of EU. The CAI was essentially about EU firms trying to access the Chinese market (esp financial services) on par with Americans (who got their entry through the Phase 1 trade deal).
If they want to trash the deal then so be it. China is least affected by it.
This also shows how sneaky the Americans are. They provoked Australia to be a lapdog, China retaliated and the loss in trade was compensated by US. (benefit to American firms.)
Again in CAI , Americans already got their entry but sabotaged EUs entry into the Chinese market. Again the winner are American firms who face less competition.
This, this and this.

All the people in this thread claiming that not signing the CAI is a big loss for China are completely wrong. The CAI was pretty much a bone that China threw to the EU in order to prevent it from taking part in the US containment strategy and war against China. With its latest moves the EU has proven – once again – that they are a dog, and they can't be trusted. You can't have your cake and eat it, that's a lesson China has to teach to these pieces of #. It's their loss.
 
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BoraTas

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This, this and this.

All the people in this thread claiming that not signing the CAI is a big loss for China are completely wrong. The CAI was pretty much a bone that China threw to the EU in order to prevent it from taking part in the US containment strategy and war against China. With its latest moves the EU has proven – once again – that they are a dog, and they can't be trusted. You can't have your cake and eat it, that's a lesson China has to teach to these pieces of #. It's their loss.
In my opinion it is early to write off the CAI. EP doesn't have authority over European nations as much as anti-EU people want you to believe.
 

Hendrik_2000

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China does not need Europe or America So let the chip fall where it may. For too long China has been deferential to US This kashmaeri guy is wrong there is nothing to be afraid sofar China stand strong after taking hit after hit guess whose economy is thriving?

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The Chinese diplomats told their US counterparts that the long practice of long-arm jurisdiction and suppression and overstretched national security through the use of force or financial hegemony are over. The US must change its behavior right now.

Last, the Chinese told the American strategists that the US needs China for its economic interest, but China doesn’t need the US now.

Referring to former president Donald Trump’s trade war, Yang said, “We’ve had a confrontation in the past, and the result did not serve the United States well. What did the United States gain from that confrontation? I didn’t see any, and the only result was damages done to the United States. And China will pull through and has pulled through such confrontation.”

The overall Chinese message to the US is straightforward and clear. The American strategists expected that China’s participation in the globalized economic system and with economic and social development would lead to reform such that China resembled the US politically and economically. Instead, after harnessing all the opportunities from the global economic system, China gained confidence that it has the capacity to alter the global economic system to continue its own political system.

Therefore, China has challenged US primacy publicly.
 
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