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plawolf

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US RC-135 Spy Plane came with 25 miles of Chinese mainland. Talk about provocation!

This is days after the Alaska meeting. US is basically saying you (China) may think you came out ahead in that meeting, but we are still the boss.

What a load of nonsense. Unless there was a special UN meeting extending national airspace to beyond 25km that plane was in international airspace, and it did not enter China’s ADIZ, so what exactly was the point and what did you expect China to do? Shoot it down? I’m sure you would be the first to come here jumping up and down claiming China doesn’t respect International law if China did do anything.

Speaking of shooting it down, you realise China could have done that any time it wanted right? That is about as much a show of strength as a drug lord sending one of his minions to walk in front of a police station on the public footpath.
 

windsclouds2030

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Here's the whole thing. Only missing a little bit after Blinken told the media to get out. There's at least one camera that was still on that captured it but it's not in this video. In that bit Yang said something like "Why are you afraid of the media? Are you not from a democratic country?"
Minutes around your posted link, I also found the link at Sina Weibo :) here it is, as additional reference.

1个多小时的连贯视频,记录中美阿拉斯加第一场会晤。
1个多小时的连贯视频,记录中美阿拉斯加第一场会晤,很多人认为会载入史册,值得收藏。

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The first meeting between China and the United States in Alaska was recorded in more than one hour's video. Many people think this meeting will go down in the history and is worth noting or collecting. Source from TVBS News, posted at the Sina Weibo website._

LIVE VERSION with Full English translation. The English translation part on the Chinese side was carried out by Chinese official translator, Zhang Jing, started at about 0:24:30
 

Tyler

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What a load of nonsense. Unless there was a special UN meeting extending national airspace to beyond 25km that plane was in international airspace, and it did not enter China’s ADIZ, so what exactly was the point and what did you expect China to do? Shoot it down? I’m sure you would be the first to come here jumping up and down claiming China doesn’t respect International law if China did do anything.

Speaking of shooting it down, you realise China could have done that any time it wanted right? That is about as much a show of strength as a drug lord sending one of his minions to walk in front of a police station on the public footpath.
Did the US spy plane enter Taiwan's ADIZ, since Taiwan's ADIZ includes part of Fujian province?

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windsclouds2030

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Adrian Zenz sanctioned by China

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'German scholar Adrian Zenz' - how is he a scholar?
Adrian Zenz, an evangelical "scholar," has recently been making so-called reports on Xinjiang, aiming to slander China's policies there.

What did he do to make US and Western countries tout him as one of "leading" experts studying Xinjiang and Tibet?

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KampfAlwin

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Adrian Zenz, an evangelical "scholar," has recently been making so-called reports on Xinjiang, aiming to slander China's policies there.

What did he do to make US and Western countries tout him as one of "leading" experts studying Xinjiang and Tibet?

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If China was like Russia, he’d be long dead already lol.
 

Temstar

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Latest 观棋有语, in their judgement Russia is very pro a much closer alliance with China. In fact Lavrov might already have a copy of Sino-Soviet Treaty of Friendship, Alliance and Mutual Assistance in his briefcase, except with a find & replace on Soviet/Russia. China is still not so keen on it as it would load up China with obligations that are not necessarily in China's interest. In particular with such a pact it may cause Russia to become even more emboldened in Middle East and Eastern Europe.

The re-education effort in Xinjiang is nearly complete. These days it is harder to find a jihadist in Xinjiang than it is to find a panda. The societal basis for Islamic Fundamentalism has more or less been completely eradicated, all that remain are just normal peace loving Uyghur who despite what the west are saying are thriving.
 

windsclouds2030

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God I lover her already.:)
You seem to be a great lover of belle... therefore I strongly suggest you to check this gorgeous actress, Chen Yuqi 陈钰琪 Yukee Chen, she's been my numero uno goddess ever since I watched the TV series: Heavenly Sword Dragon Slaying Saber 2019 倚天屠龙记 Yǐ Tian Tu Long Ji -- 2019 is the best version, there she played as the lead female character, Zhao Min, with happy ending.

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Strangelove

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Welcome to shocked & awed 21st century geopolitics

With a Russia-China-Iran triple bitch slap on the hegemon, we now have a brand new geopolitical chessboard
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March 23, 2021

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Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov (L) meets Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi (R) in Beijing, China on March 23, 2021. Photo: Russian Foreign Ministry/Handout/Anadolu Agency


It took 18 years after
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for the hegemon to be mercilessly shocked and awed by a virtually simultaneous, diplomatic Russia-China one-two.
How this is a real game-changing moment cannot be emphasized enough; 21st century geopolitics will never be the same again.
Yet it was the hegemon who first crossed the diplomatic Rubicon. In the middle of a softball interview, the handlers behind the hologram Joe “I’ll do whatever you want me to do, Nance” Biden whispered in his earpiece that he should brand Russian President Vladimir Putin as a soulless “killer.”
Not even at the height of the Cold War had the superpowers resorted to ad hominem attacks. The result of such an astonishing blunder was to regiment virtually the whole Russian population behind Putin – because that was perceived as an attack against the Russian state.
Then came Putin’s cool, calm, collected – and quite diplomatic – response, which needs to be carefully pondered. These sharp-as-a-dagger words are arguably
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five minutes in the history of post-truth international relations.
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Combination of file pictures shows US President Joe Biden and Russian President Vladimir Putin. Photos: AFP / Jim Watson and Alexander Nemenov
In
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, we forecast what could then take place in the US-China 2+2 summit at a shabby hotel in Anchorage, with cheap bowls of instant noodles thrown in as extra bonus.
China’s millennial diplomatic protocol establishes that discussions start around areas of common ground, which are then extolled as being more important than disagreements between negotiating parties. That’s at the heart of the concept of “no loss of face.” Only after establishing the common ground do the parties discuss their differences.
Yet it was totally predictable that a bunch of amateurish, tactless and clueless Americans would smash those basic diplomatic rules to show “strength” to their home crowd, distilling the proverbial litany on Taiwan, Hong Kong, South China Sea and the “genocide” of Uighurs.
Oh, dear. There was not a single State Department hack with minimal knowledge of East Asia to warn the amateurs you don’t mess with the formidable head of the Foreign Affairs Commission of the CCP’s Central Committee, Yang Jiechi, with impunity.
Visibly startled, but controlling his exasperation, Yang Jiechi
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And the rhetorical shots were heard around the whole Global South. They had to include a basic lesson in manners: “If you want to deal with us properly, let’s have some mutual respect and do things the right way.”

But what stood out was a stinging, concise
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blending of history and politics:
The United States is not qualified to talk to China in a condescending manner. The Chinese people will not accept that. It must be based on mutual respect to deal with China, and history will prove that those who seek to strangle China will suffer in the end.
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The Chinese delegation led by Yang Jiechi (center), director of the Central Foreign Affairs Commission Office, and Foreign Minister Wang Yi (second left) speak with their US counterparts at the opening session of US-China talks at the Captain Cook Hotel in Anchorage, Alaska on March 18, 2021. Photo: AFP / Frederic J Brown / Pool
And all that translated in real time by young, attractive and ultra-skilled Zhang Jing – who inevitably became an overnight superstar in China, reaping an astonishing 400 million plus hits on Weibo.
The incompetence of the “diplomatic” arm of the Biden-Harris administration beggars belief. Using a basic Sun Tzu maneuver, Yang Jiechi turned the tables and voiced the predominant sentiment of the overwhelming majority of the planet: Stuff your unilateral “rules-based order.” We, the nations of the world, privilege the UN charter and the primacy of international law.
So this is what the Russia-China one-two achieved almost instantaneously: From now on, the hegemon should be treated, all across the Global South, with at best disdain.

Inevitable historical process​

Pre-Alaska, the Americans went on to Japan and South Korea for “consultations” – a charm offensive. That’s irrelevant. What matters is post-Alaska, starting with the crucial
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meeting of foreign ministers in Guilin.
Lavrov, always unflappable, clarified in an
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how the Russia-China strategic partnership sees the current US diplomatic train wreck:
As a matter of fact, they have largely lost the skill of classical diplomacy. Diplomacy is about relations between people, the ability to listen to each other, to hear one another and to strike a balance between competing interests. These are exactly the values that Russia and China are promoting in diplomacy.
The inevitable consequence is that Russia-China must “consolidate our independence,” Lavrov said.
The United States has declared limiting the advance of technology in Russia and China as its goal. So, we must reduce our exposure to sanctions by strengthening our technological independence and switching to settlements in national and international currencies other than the dollar. We need to move away from using Western-controlled international payment systems.
Lavrov pointed out that Russia-China have clearly identified how the “Western partners” are:
promoting their ideology-driven agenda aimed at preserving their dominance by holding back progress in other countries. Their policies run counter to the objective international developments and, as they used to say at some point, are on the wrong side of history. The historical process will come into its own, no matter what happens.
And then, at the joint press conference with Wang Yi in Guilin on Tuesday, Lavrov dropped a stunning but predictable bombshell:
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Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov meets Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi (not seen) in Beijing on Tuesday. Photo: AFP / Russian Foreign Ministry / Handout / Anadolu Agency
“There are no relations with the European Union as an organization. The entire infrastructure of these relations has been destroyed by unilateral decisions made by Brussels.”
The door to reconciliation, though, is left open, “if and when Europeans deem fit to eliminate these anomalies in contacts with their largest neighbor.” Lavrov almost ruefully compared “no changes on the Western front” with a “very intensive agenda” in the East.
As a stark presentation of an inevitable “historical process,” it doesn’t get more crystal clear than that. And, predictably, it had taken no time at all for the “Western partners” to fall back into – what else? – their same old bag of sanctions tricks.
Here we go again: a US, UK, EU, Canada “alliance” issuing
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because the People’s Republic of China in Blinken’s words “continues to commit genocide and crimes against humanity in Xinjiang.”
The EU, UK, and Canada didn’t have the guts to extend the sanctions to a key player: Xinjiang party chief
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who’s a Politburo member. The Chinese response would have been – economically – devastating.
Still, Beijing counterpunched with its own sanctions – targeting, crucially, Adrian Zenz, the German far-right evangelical nut posing as a “scholar” who produced the bulk of the
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“proof” of a million Uighurs held in concentration camps.

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