NO!!!! why add another 116 million mouth to feed and add to your problem, the Philippine is a shithole and so is India. Base on your theory both of them should be colonized since they hated China, that belief will surely derail Chinese rejuvenation and the Collective West wish list.
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Yes. So while it is great benefit to society, with greater class mobility, imperial examinations did limit what smart people can do and learn. So everything in life, when there is benefit, there is also related problems, such is the idea of Taiji. Another example is the USD as world currency, per Triffin's dilemma, US need to provide the world with USD for trade purposes through trade deficit, and the result is the people in the US have a much lower price compare with other countries of similar development rate, but also slowly lost its industry capability starting from the lowest manufacturing, and slowly going up the ladder.also you quickly notice that all the people who originally did science were from the nobility. They had the time and money and didn't need to do any work. It was essentially all hobby work... There is an odd benefit to feudalism to have a bunch of the most well educated people laying around with free money and time.
Not a lot, but enough to know he reads a lot of chinese stuff but with a western mind, thus the Needham question. That is the problem with most of the China experts from the west, even today, that they try to learn about China with a western mind.Question for you.
How many of Needham's work, Science and Civilization in China, have you actually read?
Myself, I read maybe 100 pages. There was just too much. Back then there was like already 10 volumes.
Then he kind of added another 10 volumes, for over 20 volumes, of work (something like, I don't even how many volumes there are), all from ancient Chinese texts, all in the view of the lens of a Western trained scientists a prominent one, all he did was dig all the ancient to find all or any scientific thought of China and accomplishments of over 2000-3000 thousand years.
People may not always agree with some of his conclusion in parts of those volumes, but people from what I remember they were in awe that he was able to read everything, literary everything, write something like that.
What we are talking about here, really is a work that is like one of the Imperial Chinese Dynasty historical records. Inside a Chinese library, if we saw how volumes there are in the dynastic histories, that is what Joseph Needham was able to do.
Unless you are a prominent Western trained scientist, or have read this work of Needham's, or dug through ancient Chinese texts looking for engineering and science, then I cannot see how you can make those comments.
The way I see it is: Iran is pushed into a corner and the only options it has are to 1) suicide it's current system until inline with Western interests, or 2) open up to Western interests by voluntarily altering it's anti-Western policies. Either way, it ends in Western hands or it continues as a pariah state. Should it destruct internally or is couped, it will certainly end in another vassal state of the West which means another regional obstacle for China. But if China was to assert itself more into the current Iran, it could prevent Iran from potentially becoming another US vassal. Iran is no longer under UN sanctions. The only sanctions remaining are by US and some EU.
That's not what I was asking.
Iran mostly has a decent trade surplus, gdp/capita twice that of India, and a great market for foreign imports which currently are limited mostly to raw materials; a market that China could dominate very easily due to lack of competition.
Problem is China and Iran's economy is not that complementary. Currently China only wants hydrocarbons from Iran, and Iran only wants high-tech equipment's they themselves can't manufacture from China, current volume of trade is already saturated along these lines.
Iran wants to develop their own industry, they want a successful domestic car industry. Therefore Iran themselves don't want to open their market to China, and tbh it was for a good reason. What Iran truly needs is export market for their industrial goods, obviously China can't provide it to them.
The thing is they might just try to goad China to do it by cutting access to high end chips from Taiwan and South Korea.After all those talks that the US or Taiwan would scorch-earth TSMC sites in Taiwan in Operation AR, now we got someone who's trying to shift the blame to Chyna by claiming that the Chicoms would be the first to destroy the TSMC sites instead.
The fact the US is pushing these companies (TSMC, Samsung) to increase production in the US should be telling you all you should need to know. The US intends or if we are charitable, expects, a conflict with China in Asia.
Except all it would take would be a blockade and the island of Taiwan would stop. And it's not like you can make chips without clean water and power either. Their electric generation is based on sea imported coal and LNG.It would be funny if due to DPP provocations China decides to retaliate by sending a few missiles to TSMC essentially crippling Taiwan economy without doing anything drastic such as setting up a blockade. I remember US doing Cruise Missile attacks into Iraq in the 90s whenever it wanted to show anger on Saddam. Israel is also well known for air striking all its neighbours whenever it feels like.
Since Taiwan is extremely scared of further escalation, China doing limited missile strikes on Taiwan would probably be swallowed by Taiwan without further escalation. Maybe US might send more weapons into Taiwan in response.
They've been trying to overt"In times of war the laws fall silent"
"War is a continuation of politics by other means"
The only way US could ever get China to pay up 18 trillion is if it kinetically defeated China in war.....
Sounds like this could be prelude to declaration of war etc
Let's be realistic here. Iran will never have a successful car industry. So it really doesn't matter that they want this. They have no realistic means of achieving it and no real markets to sell to.Problem is China and Iran's economy is not that complementary. Currently China only wants hydrocarbons from Iran, and Iran only wants high-tech equipment's they themselves can't manufacture from China, current volume of trade is already saturated along these lines.
Iran wants to develop their own industry, they want a successful domestic car industry. Therefore Iran themselves don't want to open their market to China, and tbh it was for a good reason. What Iran truly needs is export market for their industrial goods, obviously China can't provide it to them.
So they're as ambitious as the Turks but unlike the Turks, have played their hands poorly. They don't need to make an enemy out of China but Chinese help is there for the taking and in fact, they are committed, as the 25 year $400bln Sino-Iran Agreement attests. That's $400bln that's not going into US Treasuries mind you and if any Iranian leader decides they'd rather live as slaves, then they need look no further than Argentina whose anarchy capitalist Mile was forced to kowtow to Beijing.Problem is China and Iran's economy is not that complementary. Currently China only wants hydrocarbons from Iran, and Iran only wants high-tech equipment's they themselves can't manufacture from China, current volume of trade is already saturated along these lines.
Iran wants to develop their own industry, they want a successful domestic car industry. Therefore Iran themselves don't want to open their market to China, and tbh it was for a good reason. What Iran truly needs is export market for their industrial goods, obviously China can't provide it to them.
There may not be any international sanctions left, but Chinese companies obey American sanctions on Iran and sometimes on Russia as well, that's the problem. Investing in Iran's gas industry should be extremely profitable for China, but it's not happening because clearly it's not worth angering the Americans over some additional cheap gas. China signed the 25 year agreement with Iran, but not much happened because of the US.Neither Iran nor Russia are under international sanctions, and Iran has a growing economy. At a per capita level, they are performing much better than India for example.
I'm not sure how good or bad Iran's domestic economic policy is, but it seems neither exceptionally good or bad. They have a problem with inflation but a growing industrial economy that can provide most products that they need. The core problem is American financial sanctions that make international trade very difficult and American threats to potential buyers of Iranian oil or gas that reduce sales. Which becomes very obvious from the short economic boom that the nuclear deal brought.
The key complaint from Iran is that China signed the 25 year agreement but didn't implement it. There's the promise of the 400 billion, but it hasn't shown up yet. Chinese FDI in Iran is around 100 millionSo they're as ambitious as the Turks but unlike the Turks, have played their hands poorly. They don't need to make an enemy out of China but Chinese help is there for the taking and in fact, they are committed, as the 25 year $400bln Sino-Iran Agreement attests. That's $400bln that's not going into US Treasuries mind you and if any Iranian leader decides they'd rather live as slaves, then they need look no further than Argentina whose anarchy capitalist Mile was forced to kowtow to Beijing.
It may well be slightly more due to secret investments just like how Chinese imports of Iranian oil are declared as Malaysian oil. But the 25 year agreement appears to have never implemented at all, which is why Iran is seeking sanctions relief from the west
Pretty obvious they are just that gullible, or their political class and elites are bribed by the US. Tons of counties have border disputes with each other even within ASEAN. But the Philippines chose to fu$k around and find out. It's like china convincing mexico to fight the US to get back Texas. The Mexicans aren't that stupid or gullible.Are the the Philippines that gullible or is it more because they want to ally with the US, they look up to the US, and when you have a large neighbor that wants your land, what choice do you have other than partner with another country.