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ACuriousPLAFan

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Just a slight add-on:
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Besides, given how SSNs are growing in size as they got more advanced and more capable - We may be reaching a point sometime in the future where it would be more cost-effective and effort-effective for SSNs and SSBNs to share a largely similar hull design. And given that the multipack VLS tubes have pretty much similar dimensions as a typical SLBM - Any SSBNs can have their role swapped between that of the SSBN and the SSGN by simply swapping the SLBMs with multipack VLS tubes (and vice versa), instead of having to go through a lengthy SSGN-conversion process like the first 4 Ohio boats did.
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In fact, in the future, nuclear-powered submarine technological pathways may develop towards eventually converging into the aformentioned state in bolded form, such that one of the only few remaining features that allow us to distingush SSNs from SSBNs/SSGNs would be the number of multipack VLS tubes equipped per boat (e.g. 6-10 for SSN, 12-16 for SSBN/SSGN).

Needless to say, this greatly helps in the simplification and streamlining of the planning and execution of procurement and operational doctrines and strategies for the PLAN, as China is currently in the process of massively expanding and upgrading her underwater fleet.

The US aims to raise the annual production rate of its Virginia SSNs to ~2.3 boats per year by 2028. Across the pond, however - Once its expanded workforce and facilities are finally in place, Huludao can easily achieve double that rate (~4.6 boats per year) at least.

Of course, I'm no expert in this field. I'm merely explaning and inferring from what I have came across regarding China's underwater nuclear fleet development from the past couple months and years.

ACuriousPLAFan said:
... All while avoiding the political and financial minefields of having to establish and maintain these (land-based) weapon systems and the manpower that operates them on foreign soil.
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Correction made to avoid confusion.
 
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Thailand Cabinet approves Brics membership bid​

Thailand is moving ahead with a plan to join the intergovernmental organisation Brics, which is beginning to expand beyond its founding members: Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa.

Government spokesman Chai Wacharonke said the cabinet on Tuesday approved a draft of the official letter that indicates Thailand’s intention to become a member of the group.

Egypt, Ethiopia, Iran and the United Arab Emirates officially joined the Brics bloc on Jan 1. Thailand is currently in the next queue of 15 countries being considered for admission.

Mr Chai said the letter states that Thailand realises the importance of multilateralism and the increasing role of developing countries in the international arena. The country’s vision is in line with the Brics principles.

Becoming a Brics member, the letter said, would benefit Thailand in many dimensions, including enhancing the country’s role in the international arena and increasing its opportunities to co-create a new world order.

Mr Chai said Brics had invited non-member countries aspiring to join to participate in the 16th Brics summit in Kazan, Russia, from Oct 22 to 24.

Attending the event would be an opportunity for Thailand to accelerate the membership process and enhance its role as a leading player among developing countries, he added.

Thailand has also served notice that it wants to apply to join the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development, which groups 38 of the world’s most developed economies.
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You can't stop war mongering cultures from running their mouths. The best policy to follow is just to establish clear lines and to fortify those lines with actionable leverage in the form of weapons and platforms.

Contrary to the USSR, the US can't afford an arms race vs. China because China is the superior manufacturing power. Throughout its history, the Soviets were never able to achieve more than 50% of the US's production, much less US + allies. But the situation is reversed for China vs. the US, giving China a much better hand in an arms race.
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It's not just about arms races either. Chinese apartment blocks built in the last 10 years have substantial underground fallout shelters integrated. I think Chinese government should fund extensive underground carpark + civic defense facilities build-outs as part of its green economy drive (as the lack of parking and charging infrastructure is a huge problem for older residential areas).

The infrastructure capacity gap between China and US is even bigger than the manufacturing capacity gap. One may hope when Western elites begin to worry about a mineshaft gap and the need to speed trillions to build new nuclear shelters they will start to question whether it's all worth it to intervene in the Chinese civil war.
 
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These media Ameritards better start worrying about whether this year's November elections will include some stronger January 6th moments, and what about the election after that, etc, when the US itself could be "over in an hour", than about China, Taiwan, etc. You first need shampoo and only then perfume, not the other way around. Have some internal decency and normalcy first and only then could you be a warmonger.
 
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When Germany invaded France, the French ocean liner SS Patria was seized by the British and stranded at Haifa (British Mandate Palestine). Concurrently, the British were moving eastern European Jews into Palestine in calculated numbers. The various Jewish militias operating in Palestine were against this British policy, and vowed to have maximum Jewish immigration, so they illegally smuggled hundreds of thousands Jews from Europe.

As a response, the British cracked down on these Jewish smugglers and began deporting the illegal Jews. The SS Patria was resurrected to do this task. How did the Jewish militia respond? They bombed the SS Patria and sunk it ... while it was loaded with Jews. 267 dead, including British officers. These militias would later form the core of IDF.

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This is a case of a colonial power using a tool which became too hot to handle. Neither US nor UK are able to handle this tool.
 
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