Imagine believing nuking Chinese territory from forward deployed war ships is any different from using land based nukes. A different option here is just to build more strategic weapons at different yield levels and make it clear any use of nuclear weapons whether ship based or otherwise will invite strategic retaliation at 10x the yield.
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Will Simply keep happening until the USA by the end of 2024 finally goes into its election season and all hell breaks loose hopefully an actual civil war happens (not a movie version and while extreme, it is ultimately what it would take to take the USA off the peddle for a long time). And then with out their sugar daddy, the tide might finally start to turn and then it will be Israel complaining about their love ones getting the same terrible treatment.
Is this what they truly wish for given that the amount of hatred their actions are generating isn’t going to go away any time soon. The governments might still do Washington’s bidding but the people will eventually have no choice but to either remove them by force given that most nations in the region are turning anti west slowly but surely due to what they are allowing right now. It’s sickening right now, but rest assured in the sense that the Jews will not escape this situation unpunished and I highly doubt that their main sponsor, the US is going to come out of this one unscathed either (and that is putting it extremely mildly)
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The hypocrisy is not lost on these morons. The fact that they keep hyping the Russian bear threat on the possible use of nukes in the European theatre as an absolute NO but somehow ENTIRELY ACCEPTABLE AND MUST BE ADOPTED WHOLESE as AN ADDED TOOL IN THEIR TOOLBOX is just plain LOL.
If such an unforgivable act were to be deployed and used against China, I would want the PLA and it's relevant security agency to liquidate such figure(s) like this author and others for advocating such nonsensical and brain dead suggestion. So that any future "strategist" that tries to advocate a scorch earth and genocidal policies against China would think bazillion times before even dating to suggest another moronic "strategy."
Easy solution: make it clear to any ally of an aggressor that even just not holding back the aggressor from self destructive actions is the same as being the aggressor.
It must be assumed that they are active participants and get the same treatment if not proven otherwise. They will not be able to escape unscathed.
Blood thirsty but unfortunately with this many of these neo con and war mongering people out there, some kind of extremely hard deterrent/ retribution will be required in the future to remove these people from any position of office where they can influence others to commit this kind of evil.
Examples will have to be made of them (medieval style given the severe nature of the freaks we are dealing with, Lindsay Graham/John Bolton being among the worst of them), otherwise how will the world ever be safe. I mean what has all these protest around the world accomplished, very little but events like the French Revolution have changed the course of history. Let’s hope that the majority of these monsters will be erased from this world once and for all
You can't stop war mongering cultures from running their mouths. The best policy to follow is just to establish clear lines and to fortify those lines with actionable leverage in the form of weapons and platforms.
Contrary to the USSR, the US can't afford an arms race vs. China because China is the superior manufacturing power. Throughout its history, the Soviets were never able to achieve more than 50% of the US's production, much less US + allies. But the situation is reversed for China vs. the US, giving China a much better hand in an arms race.
Contrary to the USSR, the US can't afford an arms race vs. China because China is the superior manufacturing power. Throughout its history, the Soviets were never able to achieve more than 50% of the US's production, much less US + allies. But the situation is reversed for China vs. the US, giving China a much better hand in an arms race.
This kind of China-hawk article confirms exactly what Scott Ritter has been very concerned about with regards to low-yield warheads being deployed on Trident missiles. Some people may accuse Ritter of being a nuclear war alarmist, and maybe he is. But articles like these are just not helpful. The article calls for the US to forward-deploy low-yield nukes against China. This is extremely provocative, as it would put them within minutes of striking the Chinese mainland. This is what a first-strike posture looks like.
The China-hawks ultimately want to use low-yield nukes as an excuse to use nukes in a conventional war against China. If China wins the conventional war, they want to resort to small nukes for the ultimate win. This is extremely irresponsible as even a low-yield nuke is about 5kT, already 454 times the power of the MOAB. Plus there is that fall-out too. They hoped that China, lacking any nukes of comparably small yields would be reluctant to retaliate with their strategic nukes, lest the US replies with its own comparatively larger arsenal of strategic nukes. Its a sick mindset, to attempt to bully a nuclear power with "grey area" nukes and gamble with nuclear war.
Therefore again, China has to rapidly expand its warhead and delivery systems count. China needs to send a serious message to the China-hawks that it can fry them all from Coast to Coast for daring to use any nukes on Chinese soil. Build the strategic nukes first, because if China replies with tactical nukes on US forces, the US will escalate to strategic nukes anyway. Build the nuclear arsenal that can truly scare the China-hawks. Deter them from initiating any style of nuclear war. And hopefully deter them from any war with China at all.
One mistake a lot of people, especially the US makes is that they assume they know how many nukes China has along with what kind of delivery capabilities they have and that they mistakenly think that because it is ‘Chyna’ tech, it won’t work. They are not part of any nuke agreement with the USA like Russia is, hence everything is guess work. For all we know, they may have 1.5k working nukes with hypersonic delivery capability along with satellite guidance for pinpoint accuracy.
Remember that it is China that is the very first to achieve hypersonic dominance in terms of tech and power and most of all, hasn’t given the west any idea as to how dangerous it truly is (we can bet quite reasonably that is is of a greater and faster capability then Russia has got right now). All these idiot hawks (even Ritter who sometimes does miss the ball) don’t realize that it is not that China doesn’t have the ability to completely destroy America ( seriously 1 nuke detonated as an EMP above the USA with its breaking down infrastructure and piss poor air defenses is all it would take to take out the entire electrical grid (a literal death sentence for the USA), this is an achievable task given its ultra fast and accurate delivery), it’s that they are waiting for those idiots in Washington to deploy this first and foremost, preferably in an failed attempt to strike either Russia or China so that it would given the ultimate excuse to end the American chapter on the world stage in a single hour.
Of course China would rather not send the USA into a nuclear saturated oblivion, but the option should always be their in case those morons in Washington still cannot over their Cold War victory phase which anyone with a brain should know this by now, the world isn’t going to stand still forever
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