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Equation said:

With all that now you know how it feels to be a suppressed Palestinians for over 70 years with no Western media to favor their narrative. Don't pretend that these members from SDF are blind and ignorant to the matters of geopolitics of the world. Zionist Jews just wants everybody in the world to follow ONLY their feelings and views because "God" says so. That way they can purposefully say that the land of Palestine has always belongs to them even though it was colonized by the British and GIVEN to the Jews after WW2 out sympathy of the holocaust.

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Boltzmann said:

This is a prime example of the sort of willful resistance to actually studying the relevant history, combined with a dash of ethnic hatred, that has made it impossible to have a serious discussion on this issue. Britain did not "give" mandatory Palestine to Jews, much less out of sympathy for the holocaust. Both of those claims are contrary to the records of British decision-making that we have, as you would know if you read them.

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Equation said:

So why didn't' the British just leave Palestine to the inhabitants just like they did for Hong Kong? That's not "impossible" to discuss. It's only impossible to those who don't want to see ALL of the narratives of history of Palestine.

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Boltzmann said:

You're right that I should have considered seige's statement in the context of the whole conflict and not just the latest flare-up, that is my fault.

What I was trying to do was express a general frustration with what I see as pretty extreme hypocrisy on this forum when it comes to violence against civilians. (Not to mention no small amount of antisemitism since Oct 7, see the comment before last). I remember when Russia invaded Ukraine. I was a lurker at the time. There was an enormous sense of glee on this forum for the destruction that followed, and consistent denial of the crimes that Russia committed against Ukrainian civilians, either in its indiscriminate bombing practices or in more on-the-ground massacres and war-crimes in Bukha and elsewhere. They accused Ukraine of bombing its own people and blaming it on Russia. Time has since passed and such denial has become rare, but what replaced it was an indifference to the human cost and general sense that whatever Russia was doing was worth it to protect itself, regardless of the civilian suffering it wrought.

This is repeated in discussions on options for PLA strike strategies in westpac. It is not uncommon to see advocacy for intensive bombardment of dual-use infrastructure in Japan and even Taiwan; especially Taiwan. This includes things like electric grides, telecom networks, food stockpiles, and water distribution. Are the commentators here ignorant as to what this would mean for civilians in Taiwan? Would they be willing to personally endure the hell that followed for the sake of reunification? They are either unaware of simply indifferent.

That brings us to the most recent spate of conflict in Israel. This was sparked when Hamas operatives snuck across the boarder and massacred about 1200 civilians in their homes and in a music festival. Women were on video being raped and murdered. Entire families including children were killed, and hundreds were captured. Again, the reaction here was one of general glee. People called the victims settlers and mocked their suffering, calling for their mass murder or expulsion "back to Europe", regardless of the fact that 60% of them descended from MENA Jews fleeing ethnic cleansing, and refuse to even acknowledge this undisputed historical fact. Then the predictably terrible retaliation follows in Gaza, and there is an outpouring of sympathy, suddenly human life matters and individuals should not be punished for the actions of their forefathers. Many of the people displaying this sympathy are ones who mocked or otherwise dismissed the suffering of dead Ukrainian and Israeli civilians.

And nobody calls out or even acknowledges this. It's the same behavior Americans display and are hated for; only caring about life when it benefits them geopolitically, and showing a total disregard for it otherwise. And the worst part is that Israel/Palestine does not even implicate China in any meaningful way, it just wants to buy oil from Arab countries and agrotech from Israel, it has no political stake in this. But many forum-goers make up a stake to accommodate their own biases.

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KYli said:

Any nation that doesn't bow to the West is axis of evil.

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Boltzmann said:

This is a prime example of the sort of willful resistance to actually studying the relevant history, combined with a dash of ethnic hatred, that has made it impossible to have a serious discussion on this issue. Britain did not "give" mandatory Palestine to Jews, much less out of sympathy for the holocaust. Both of those claims are contrary to the records of British decision-making that we have, as you would know if you read them.

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Bellum_Romanum said:

Oh BOOHOO. Stop projecting your bullshit on the Chinese people and the Chinese government dude. As an ethnic Chinese person myself, we have nothing to do with what your fellow white people of Europe regarding their horrendous crimes against humanity towards European Jews, culminating with the holocaust during WWII. Why are we being guilt trip in the crimes we had nothing to do and influence over with? Why is the usual tendency for westerners to do is to tack on the rest of the world for the crimes and grievances that they have inflicted amongst each other and then expect the innocent countries to either help them or pay for the crimes we have nothing to do in the first place?

Take the war in Ukraine, the constant meddling with China's internal issues ranging from Tibet, Xinjiang, Hong Kong, Taiwan, the SCS, and disputes with Japan. Oddly enough, the sources of the issues can be traced back to western/American meddling in order to seek and maintain their control or hegemony of the world.

Your reasoning is so whack and frankly stupid that you're trying your stupid best for us to side with the actions of Israel when what they're clearly doing is BEYOND APALLING, it's not me saying this, but also the U.N. and other human rights organizations. That's despite a very strong influence and pressure from America and media that are largely very pro-Israel, that's also a FACT YOU CAN'T REFUTE.

The mere fact that you've even conflate the issue between Israel and Palestine to that of China vs Taiwan is just asinine and f..ng insulting to say the least.

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Boltzmann said:

It will never not be funny to me when 小粉红 accuse me of being Anti-China for actually having studied their country, when I have an order-of-magnitude deeper understanding of and support for its governing entity and national system in every way.

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Chevalier said:

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apparently, these Zionist supremacists are upset that Chinese aren’t acknowledging their place as livestock and servants to Gods Chosen People.

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