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ACuriousPLAFan said:

Or that he wants the US to go to war with the cartels down south, and thus having to defend against rocket attacks from those cartels like the ones employed by Hamas? Kek

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This Iron dome name translated from Hebrew which is called interceptor missile. interceptor missile can of any class.
This low altitude is not easy to deal with it. you can already see it in Ukraine and that is not even case of saturated attack on one target.

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Russia has a “threat that is very viable now that was not viable in the past—and that threat is for them to launch a cruise missile over the North Pole through Canada and either into Canada or the United States,” RTX’s Ferraro said.
Such missiles would approach at low altitudes and have the ability to maneuver in flight, presenting a far different challenge from decades-old intercontinental ballistic missiles.

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Two can play the game.

Any nation that doesn't bow to the West is axis of evil.

KYli said:

Any nation that doesn't bow to the West is axis of evil.

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Wouldn't America's SS Galicien friends be confused which side to fight for if Russia is suddenly in the "Axis of evil"?

Only one of the 2 contending empires in this era's conflict is built on genocide, rampant nationalism, militarism and an abject disregard of human norms. There is only 1 nazi, and that nazi is the one which took in German and Japanese nazis in ww2 under their wings and sheltered them.

China and Russia alike should embrace rhetoric of pointing out who succeeded the nazis, who inherited their ideas, officials and ideals, and it make it clear that the alliance against US is none other than a continuation of the struggle against nazism.

FairAndUnbiased said:

There's a reason why Chinese could built continent spanning empires over and over again for 2000 years. We conquered when we had to. But no more. Chinese have nothing to prove with extreme brutality and bloodshed because we were historically winners, not victims. We don't have a long history of being persecuted (or of being the persecutors). All persecution of Chinese was extremely recent history, mostly invented.

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You do not have a long history of being persecutors because everything needed to build a large and prosperous empire was already located within China itself, you are right. However, the corollary of this, as I am sure you know, is that there have been several dozen extraordinarily violent and brutal civil wars over control of these resources. You were consistently winners because the wars you fought were between different factions of Chinese themselves. There is nothing wrong with this, but pretending it did not happen is dishonest.

And that is not to say that Chinese states have never engaged in violent repression or conquest of others. The genocide of the Dzungar people by the Qing is a prime example, as is the many repeated invasions of northern Vietnam by dynasties stretching back to the Han. The Vietnamese certainly remember this.

And when it comes to the current (and hopefully permanent) Chinese state, its ability to industrialize was wholly dependent on the mass killing of the landlord class that occurred in the immediate 2 years of so after the KMT were expulsed. This involved the death of well over a million people, and very often the killing of entire family networks rather than just the individual landlords themselves. But without this, it would never have been possible to create an industrial base on which development could occur, because all of the surplus food that needed to be devoted to urban workers would have instead been hoarded by landlords.

FriedButter said:

What about Warmaster Gordon Chang? lmao.

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azn_cyniq said:

I doubt you'll get the opportunity to hold me to that. For your analogy to make sense, China would have to turn Japan into an open-air prison and murder Japanese children year after year for 70 years. I don't see that happening in our lifetimes.

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I was specifically referring to large-scale bombardment of civilian infrastructure, and you at first accepted that as constituting a military atrocity against civilians. It hasn't even been an hour and you're already trying to renegotiate the terms of accountability here. What do you think that tells me?

Boltzmann said:

And when it comes to the current (and hopefully permanent) Chinese state, its ability to industrialize was wholly dependent on the mass killing of the landlord class that occurred in the immediate 2 years of so after the KMT were expulsed. This involved the death of well over a million people, and very often the killing of entire family networks rather than just the individual landlords themselves. But without this, it would never have been possible to create an industrial base on which development could occur, because all of the surplus food that needed to be devoted to urban workers would have instead been hoarded by landlords.

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Idk if you already know this, but the "landlords" destroyed by the CPC are a far cry from modern day developed country landlords.

Yes, both Chinese and Western people meme about how much landlords suck, sometimes followed by saying that Mao had the right idea what to do with them. But landlords during Mao's era were literal warlords, aristocrats, owners of slaves, triad leaders and so on. They weren't just privileged fucks that refuse to fix the water, demand rent early and threaten eviction. They would kill, rape and sell into slavery those who defied them. Hired mobsters would carry out their orders.

Mao himself was almost killed as a young man when he was captured by the private militia of a landlord.

These "landlords" had much more in common with afghan warlords than they have with modern day landlords in China or Europe.

Killing the landlord was not done as a revolutionary or political statement. It was done because the landlords literally threatened the lives of many normal people. Using armed force against them was the lesser evil. Even then, they could always surrender and be arrested, it's not like they were totally exterminated.

Honestly I'd need credible sources on that "collective punishment" was ever carried out against landlord families that weren't themselves involved in criminal business. China didn't even do collective punishment against Japanazi settler families, I find it very hard to believe they'd punish someone just for being related to a landlord, unless they're actively part of said landlord's enforcers.

Many of the landlords understandably had their relatives as their lieutenants and underbosses.

Boltzmann said:

I was specifically referring to large-scale bombardment of civilian infrastructure, and you at first accepted that as constituting a military atrocity against civilians. It hasn't even been an hour and you're already trying to renegotiate the terms of accountability here. What do you think that tells me?

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Where did anyone other than yourself describe or perceive that large scale bombardment of civilian infrastructure constituted the extent and totality of Israel's policies and actions to Palestine?

This tangent of discussion is rather silly, but as you've chosen to go down the path, then at least review what Siege wrote originally that you quoted and which others responded to you about.