Excuse me. What happened to the Dzungars is no different from what happened to the Pomeranian, Prussian, Sudeten and Baltic Germans. All of these communities spent decades actively waging nearly non-stop wars of aggression and invasions of nearly all of their neighbours until the major power in the region (Soviets, Qing) had enough, killed some, resettled and assimilated some, and expelled the remainder. They were not a motley group of rebels launching some occasional retaliatory terrorists attacks against foreign occupiers. Please do not use these to rope us in.
Ah you want to bring in Vietnam! good! Northern Vietnam was first inducted into China with the conquest of rogue Chinese official Zhao Tuo and his family. It broke away in the early middle ages under rogue Chinese central government official who happened to be born in Northern Vietnam, Ly Bon, but this attempt was quickly defeated. After the total fragmentation of China in the 10th century and defeating attempts for unification including by local Vietnamese governors like Kieu Cong Tien, Vietnam became an independent state, Dai Viet.
No similarity to Israel-Palestine here.
Dai Viet fought a few wars to resist the Mongols who were halfway through their conquest of China. Later, the Vietnamese warlord Ho Quy Ly, while launching attacks on the Ming, declared himself Emperor of Great Yu (ancient Chinese state), descendant of Great Shun (ancient Chinese sage king). In opposition, thousands of Vietnamese scholars officials petitioned the Ming to annex Vietnam. These were given one of the best government-run education programs at the time to prepare Vietnamese to enter into Ming civil service. When it didnt work out, Ming pulled out completely and left. In the 18th century the Vietnamese monarchs simply requested the Qing as part of the tributary contract to protect him from rebels, but when intervention was going nowhere, the Qing left.
No similarity to Israel-Palestine issues.
If you guys decided to make all the Palestinians into Israeli citizens and provide them full public services, let me know. Or alternatively let me know when all the Palestinian territories are treated as independent. Only then will we have some equivalency.
