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In4ser

In4ser

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AssassinsMace said:
The non-white world wants to move away from the West. The only non-white ones that side with the US have been brainwashed because of Christianity and/or they want to think they're white hence why would they want to side with the inferiors?

Just like I've been pointing to how Europe has very little natural, especially strategic, resources of their own, the worse can be said of Japan and South Korea. If you've noticed the US dictates to all its allies' foreign policy telling them who they have relations and trade with. Japan and South Korea ride on the US coattails so they can concentrate on economics meaning also they need the US to get what they want from other countries. I just read an article on how Blinken had to report to South Korea on his talks with China. Blinken had to press for South Korean interests to China. They couldn't do that on their own? That basically sums it up that US allies need US muscle to get what they want in the world. One of the reasons China's neighbors hate China is because they're always in China's shadow. They're never seen as "more" important except in Western antagonism of China. If China was to all of the sudden surrender and be a lapdog of the US and the West, China's neighbors would be overshadowed and invisible again.

Japan and South Korea can't turn their backs on the US. The US built this ladder they tell the world goes to the top. In order for the world to climb this ladder, you have to follow US Western rules. This ladder has only room for one to climb up at a time. The only way you can rise is wait until the person above you climbs up at their own pace or you knock them off the ladder but the higher ground has the advantage. Since the US and the West dictate the rules, they're the ones highest up on the rungs of the hierarchy of this ladder.

So where's China in all of this? Over there climbing on its own ladder they built unimpeded by anyone above or below. China is now up there about to surpass the US. Before China, the world was crowding climbing up the US's ladder. Now that the world sees China climbing its own ladder, they're abandoning the US ladder to build their own or climbing up China's. And look at the US's allies angry that China didn't follow their rules seeing China climbing higher than them. They can't abandon the US's ladder because they already spent too much time and resources climbing up it. It would be like starting over from square one all over again. For Japan and South Korea what use to look like they were up there on the higher end of the US's ladder when the world was trying to climb it. Now they're on the tail end.

For petty Asian nationalists, they're okay if they're not number one just as long as they're higher up than mostly everyone else. The classic definition of a sycophant.
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Japan and S. Korea should be careful. If there's one thing Indians are exceptional at is climbing ladders, especially the corporate and political ladders. A Western-aligned India may in time be able to domineer the South Koreans and Japanese as junior partners as they've become overly committed to the US ladder. I have no doubt that more and more Indian talent finds its way into positions of power in Washington D.C. and Wall Street and drive a more Indian-friendly policy from and within America.
 
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In4ser said:
Japan and S. Korea should be careful. If there's one thing Indians are exceptional at is climbing ladders, especially the corporate and political ladders. A Western-aligned India may in time be able to domineer the South Koreans and Japanese as junior partners as they've become overly committed to the US ladder. I have no doubt that more and more Indian talent finds its way into positions of power in Washington D.C. and Wall Street and drive a more Indian-friendly policy from and within America.
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Speaking as a Canadian Chinese immigrant, fresh off the boat, yes!

Exactly! Agree completely. At least we still can say stuff like this out loud. Glad we talking about it on gay Toronto parade day, to boot.

This is beginning to sound like some sort of wet dream.

That Modi-Biden tet-la-tet this past week, there was an agreement that more Indians will be allowed into the United States under various US visas conditions. You know, that is the largest export, their people.

When the politburo reads this news in Beijing, they won't understand it. I betcha they will feel fresh off the boat too.

Kind of like what Marx said about religion as being the opium for the people. American ideology could be the same for the US ruling class.

What stoners. They probably dancing on the streets with the gay and multi-gendered and neutered, at least half of them.

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Minm

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Learn some history. North Korea was much closer to the Soviet Union than China and the Kims have purged all China-friendly elements right after the Korea War. How do you know China didn’t guarantee security for the Kims? The US would have bombed North Korea long before they got nukes if not for China’ backing.


A thousand Chinese entities got sanctioned. Could be a LOT more.

Argentina isn’t next to China and PLA can’t reach it. Pakistan is a neighbour and plays an important role of balancing India

Picking fights helps China’s economic development in what way?

Again, learn some history. The Kims weren’t and still aren’t interested in obtaining Chinese help.

Ya, life in China was so great in the 60-80 period. Ask your parents or grandparents about that period if they grew up in China.

China needs useful allies, not ungrateful leeches. Soviet Union had plenty of allies, how did that turned out?
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China's policy on North Korea in the last two decades or so can only be described as a failure. That doesn't mean that the Korean side isn't also at fault. But China unfortunately believed the American fairy tale that economic sanctions can stop nuclear weapons development. The Kims clearly didn't trust China or Russia to defend them if they were attacked, that's why they developed the bomb. Chinese sanctions on North Korea only reinforce their belief that they can't trust China. The same story is repeating with Iran. Instead of becoming Chinese allies, they are now getting closer to Russia

Of course I'm not saying that China should have picked fights over other countries in the past. But right now China is still enforcing sanctions instead of recognising that the good times with the US are never coming back.

There's a balance between standing with other countries to protect them against American aggression and complying with American wishes in order to conduct more trade. But China has been so far on the side of compliance that it has gained the reputation of an unreliable ally that's only interested in a transactional relationship. The west doesn't impose crippling sanctions just because you don't obey them completely. Russia intervened in Syria and Mali against Western interests and they did nothing. Did Brazil get sanctioned for it's pro Iran policy in the previous Lula administration? India even built a port in Iran and got it excluded from sanctions. China could have done more at minimal cost 10 years ago. Today, any action China takes only accelerates American sanctions by a few months

China doesn't have any useful allies, that's the problem


Biscuits said:
Also idk why some people are bashing the relationship with NK. China is getting a lot of returns from NK, just not economically.

Yeah, it's not the most developed place in the region, but neither was SK. SK only pulled ahead due to collapse of the USSR and the consequent western looting that let them get a boost. NK is still better developed than much of south east asia.

But the main thing NK provides is military. They have a million man army and massive amounts of reliable, older surplus gear, which they're experienced with using. They're essentially the Ukraine of Asia. Dogshit civilian development (which btw, NK might in the near future surpass Ukraine in), but fanatical and well armed enough to be more than just a speed bump even for superpower militaries.

Having that type of ally is not easy to get. Even though it might benefit the NK civilian living standard more if China annexed the area and turned it into Hongkong but big, such a move would not be legal, would create understandable resentment by the locals.

And it would also not necessarily help China that much, because there are other areas inside China that are better off being economically developed first before China needs to worry about expanding using economical vassals.

I.e. Why make NK into Guangdong 2.0 when China hasn't even made Xinjiang or Qinghai into Guangdong 2.0 first? Beijing would have better control and better ability to exploit those 2 vs exploiting a nominally independent NK.
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Would North Korea survive another famine? If the country were just a little richer, it would be more reliable. I'd be worried that the million man army follows the fate of the soviet union unless there's some economic progress

It doesn't need to be like Guangdong. But China has been actively degrading the North Korean economy in the vain hope that there'd be denuclearisation, which will never happen
 
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In4ser said:
Japan and S. Korea should be careful. If there's one thing Indians are exceptional at is climbing ladders, especially the corporate and political ladders. A Western-aligned India may in time be able to domineer the South Koreans and Japanese as junior partners as they've become overly committed to the US ladder. I have no doubt that more and more Indian talent finds its way into positions of power in Washington D.C. and Wall Street and drive a more Indian-friendly policy from and within America.
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It already started in some Western nations such a Britain and Canada.


Minm said:
China's policy on North Korea in the last two decades or so can only be described as a failure. That doesn't mean that the Korean side isn't also at fault. But China unfortunately believed the American fairy tale that economic sanctions can stop nuclear weapons development.

Of course I'm not saying that China should have picked fights over other countries in the past. But right now China is still enforcing sanctions instead of recognising that the good times with the US are never coming back.

There's a balance between standing with other countries to protect them against American aggression and complying with American wishes in order to conduct more trade. But China has been so far on the side of compliance that it has gained the reputation of an unreliable ally that's only interested in a transactional relationship. The west doesn't impose crippling sanctions just because you don't obey them completely. Russia intervened in Syria and Mali against Western interests and they did nothing. Did Brazil get sanctioned for it's pro Iran policy in the previous Lula administration? India even built a port in Iran and got it excluded from sanctions. China could have done more at minimal cost 10 years ago. Today, any action China takes only accelerates American sanctions by a few months

China doesn't have any useful allies, that's the problem
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I wouldn't be surprised that there are many wealthy Chinese have hidden their wealth in offshore accounts in such places as Delaware (US.) And they would lose it all if they don't use their influence on the Chinese government to comply with US wishes. As for sanctions for violations of US policy, it all comes down to if the *right* people in US political elites have been bribed (i.e. Biden's 10% cut for the big guy).
 
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Biscuits

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Minm said:
China's policy on North Korea in the last two decades or so can only be described as a failure. That doesn't mean that the Korean side isn't also at fault. But China unfortunately believed the American fairy tale that economic sanctions can stop nuclear weapons development. The Kims clearly didn't trust China or Russia to defend them if they were attacked, that's why they developed the bomb. Chinese sanctions on North Korea only reinforce their belief that they can't trust China. The same story is repeating with Iran. Instead of becoming Chinese allies, they are now getting closer to Russia

Of course I'm not saying that China should have picked fights over other countries in the past. But right now China is still enforcing sanctions instead of recognising that the good times with the US are never coming back.

There's a balance between standing with other countries to protect them against American aggression and complying with American wishes in order to conduct more trade. But China has been so far on the side of compliance that it has gained the reputation of an unreliable ally that's only interested in a transactional relationship. The west doesn't impose crippling sanctions just because you don't obey them completely. Russia intervened in Syria and Mali against Western interests and they did nothing. Did Brazil get sanctioned for it's pro Iran policy in the previous Lula administration? India even built a port in Iran and got it excluded from sanctions. China could have done more at minimal cost 10 years ago. Today, any action China takes only accelerates American sanctions by a few months

China doesn't have any useful allies, that's the problem



Would North Korea survive another famine? If the country were just a little richer, it would be more reliable. I'd be worried that the million man army follows the fate of the soviet union unless there's some economic progress

It doesn't need to be like Guangdong. But China has been actively degrading the North Korean economy in the vain hope that there'd be denuclearisation, which will never happen
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Except China allowed and encouraged NK nuclearization? How else do you think they made the leap from nothing to DF-41 equivalent in like a decade?

Certainly not by going up against China in any shape or form, because that would earn their nuclear program the same treatment as Iran got from Israel, or maybe 10 times worse, considering that no one except China cares about NK and NK is riddled with connections to China.

If Russia is useless then what is EU who failed to stop Russia economically despite the whole focus of the EU being economy and having nearly as big gdp on paper as China?

At least NK does something, which is make SK untenable and provide a deep military manpower pool.

Another famine isn't gonna happen in NK, the country is better off than much of the third world. So that is a moot threat.
 
manqiangrexue

manqiangrexue

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Petrolicious88 said:
If two schools are equally good, why would any parents choose the one that is homogenous in race. How does that benefit their kid, especially in a country like America.
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Like I said, de facto segregation by preference. My parents would always feel more confident and safe if I'm in a group of Asians, even more with Chinese because they feel like they can understand and relate to everyone better and they are better equipped to solve problems should they arise by talking to other Chinese parents. I also choose a circle of Asian friends. The fact is that most Asian parents prefer other Asian parents to deal with and most Asian students prefer other Asian students to hang out with. For some reason, you think Asian parents want their kids to hang out with other races as a selling point?!? LOL An all Asian elite STEM school would be a dream school for so many Asians; hell, having that be my target could have actually made me study in high school. Not that I plan to raise my kids in the US but if I had to and such a school existed, I would do anything to get my kids into that school as long as it ranked in the top 25. Harvard/Princeton/Yale can go eat a sack of dks if my kid got into Asian STEM IVY. People push away difference to seek out similarity/familiarity; it's a fact of the world even if it doesn't sound PC. It quite frankly sounds like you're trying to pretend that everyone's totally melted into what America wanted them to become and has no identity anymore.
Petrolicious88 said:
Like what? Name a few please? Got the sense China is perfect from all the past posts.
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Is this a shill attempt to draw out complaints against China by Chinese people for legitimacy? LOL
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Someone here once defended the Cultural Revolution as necessary.
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Hong Kong and Taiwan could use one so fking bad right now, that's for sure.
 
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ficker22

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Having said that, what's wrong with Thuringia actually? That Bundesland has been hotbed for AfD.
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One of the hardest hit by demographic decline. I know people living there and the age median is like 40 something in many communities, especially if it is not the big cities like Erfurt.
From those 40 odd year olds living there the most are quite affirmative towards socialism, AfD isn't a Socialist or even social party, but having AfD with more leverage makes the competition between votes harder which would entice the social(ist) parties to be more red to gain support or otherwise lose out to AfD.



Another thing is that the collapse of DDR (GDR) caused societal collapse which is still not corrected, rather the federal government spent like 12 million for gender studies for afghan women while our troops were still in Afghanistan.


Don't get me wrong, I would love a Afghanistan free from religious influences, would open up opportunities for China regarding getting ressources, cheap labour, another Belt and Road country and maybe evacuate the Hazara to Ningxia or something, but given that it's western gender education, I know that the 12 million € were wasted. ( That and the obvious defeat of the coalition by goat herrders)


So lack of innovation, landlocked federal state, ass old population and a general distrust in the (failed) state apparatus.


And yes a german state that is unable to even publicly name the country that ordered the destruction of Germany's arguably single most important energy lifeline is a failed one.
 
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