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Germany's far-right AfD wins vote to lead district for first time​





China's new best friend party in Germany soon?
AfD is quite a mixed bag, it basically has anything from alt-socialists to conservatives, to straight hitler cum lickers.



AfD began quite moderate, beame more and more extremist with the migration crisis and basically got blacklisted by media and all other parties (atleast those with government mandate), still blacklisted.


The subsequent f :) ck up of the greens and "social" democrats, liberals and the kneebending and capitulation of the Conservative CDU which adopted wokeism and deviant pederastry leads to this massive influx of new voters and member to AfD.


The outcome of which, defining the definite party line wrt China has still to be determined. A reshuffling of some party values is coming, especially with the next federal votes next year.


Having a conservative at AfD's head is good, having a racist nut job at its head will be pretty bad, even worse than status quo.


Good thing is, a good chunk is very US sceptical.
 

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good analysis by baronoftaiga on the implications of Prigozhins betryal. It may have been an attempted regime change by traitors within Russia in the wake of a supposed successful Ukrainian offensive, planned months ago. Prigozhin may have felt the FSB breathing down his neck so decided to act prematurely
I dont think Prigozhin has any betryal. Prigozhin is fictional character with no religious basis. easily can be disposed off.
Russia has maintained free flow of people with open borders and this may have attracted way more people to Wagner group. by giving such order to overthrow government he made life easier for FSB about loyalties inside Wagner. this very risky exercise so damages can expected as you never know how many will obey it. when you see all that chaos in information space in Russia it is not that FSB omnipresent that it can control every thing but there is a religious establishment that look over society this allows Putin to do all kind of experiments. Putin speech in international economic form revolved around religion. It does not mean he is religious man but there is religious establishment that is making him say things.
This thing only came to my attention because i had interest in Japanese automobiles that were built late 80s afterwards when Japan truly combined tech, luxury and reliability and that Toyota Cressida craze took over Mideast market before SUVs become popular.
This Priest got this vehicle and it is highly likely that he had seen Muslim religious people in this vehicle and those people receive guests from Gulf Arabs.

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This Ukrainian girl cross border from Mariupol to Krasnodar and she was surprised by number of kids and pregnant women. I dont think she knows the reason behind it.

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Technically this means that the army is personally loyal to a single person, the president. It does not say 'accept the leadership of the president'. It says obey their orders. That means the president can theoretically give a personal command to a private to do something, and they must do it.

Compare: theoretically accepting the overall leadership of a collective group, vs personally obeying a single man's direct command.
That is not accurate. Enlisted US military personal swear by that oath, and you forgot the second part:
and the orders of the officers appointed

US military commissioned officers swear this oath:

I ___, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.

Notice how there is nothing about the president for the officer's oath. In addition, the enlisted swore an oath to listen to both. In short, theoretically, if the US president and a military officer give contradictory orders, an enlisted personal cannot execute both as there is a conflict between the president and the military officer's orders. The only consistent part is the one about the Constitution. These oathes are designed to prevent the possibility of inter-military loyalty and a military dictatorship all at once.
 

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They had discussions like white overlords about their policies towards China and Asia in Brussels.



They welcomed the success of the first joint U.S.-EU naval exercise, conducted in March 2023. They intend to take new steps to advance practical maritime cooperation in the Indo-Pacific region, including facilitating the EU’s involvement and participation in INDOPACOM’s naval exercises and planning conferences in the region. Given their shared commitment to enhancing maritime domain awareness in the Indo-Pacific, they also intend to establish further technical exchanges in this area, including on ways to ensure maximum complementarity between the U.S. SeaVision and the EU-funded IORIS systems.

They reaffirmed plans to continue to safeguard against and respond to foreign information manipulation and interference, including in the Indo-Pacific, through coordinated, complementary programming and information exchanges on best practices in supporting free and resilient media environments. They further assessed the threats posed by widespread use of information manipulation.

Under Secretary Nuland and Secretary General Sannino stressed the importance of increasing coordination on cyber cooperation with the Indo-Pacific region. They intend to initiate dedicated efforts under the annual U.S.-EU Cyber Dialogue to foster joint actions related to cyberspace issues in the Indo-Pacific via activities supporting cyber capacity-building and confidence building measures, including in the context of the ASEAN Regional Forum.

They also emphasised the importance of encouraging ongoing efforts in the region to end discrimination and violence against people on the grounds of their sexual orientation, gender identity and expression, and sex characteristics, in order to advance the human rights of LGBTIQ+ persons.

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Current regime is geopolitically hostile but supports buying renewable energy and EVs which China dominates at.

AFD is more EU skeptical but are going to destroy Germany's native renewable and EV industries while promoting fossil fuels that Germany doesn't have, but Russia does.

heads China wins, tails Germany loses.

AfD is quite a mixed bag, it basically has anything from alt-socialists to conservatives, to straight hitler cum lickers.



AfD began quite moderate, beame more and more extremist with the migration crisis and basically got blacklisted by media and all other parties (atleast those with government mandate), still blacklisted.


The subsequent f :) ck up of the greens and "social" democrats, liberals and the kneebending and capitulation of the Conservative CDU which adopted wokeism and deviant pederastry leads to this massive influx of new voters and member to AfD.


The outcome of which, defining the definite party line wrt China has still to be determined. A reshuffling of some party values is coming, especially with the next federal votes next year.


Having a conservative at AfD's head is good, having a racist nut job at its head will be pretty bad, even worse than status quo.


Good thing is, a good chunk is very US sceptical.

Looks like AfD is more China friendly than I thought. I originally only read these two articles by Maximilian Krah who was a AfD MEP and vice chair of Europe-China friendly group in European Parliament (欧洲议会欧中友好小组副主席) ?
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Then I remembered this interview by one of the two leaders of AfD shows a friendly stance towards China IMO.
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Today I came across info on the other leader of AfD, Alice Weidel. CCTV interviewed her before
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Check out her Wikipedia profile :cool:
In the late 2000s, she worked at the
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Subsequently, she wrote a doctoral thesis with the health economist Peter Oberender at the Faculty of Law and Economics in Bayreuth on the future of the Chinese pension system.
Maybe the CPC International Dept should pay them a visit before the next Germany election.

Reminds me of this famous dialogue
Chairman Mao: I like rightists. People say you are rightists, that the Republican Party is to the right, that Prime Minister Heath is also to the right.

President Nixon: And General DeGaulle.

Chairman Mao: DeGaulle is a different question. They also say the Christian Democratic Party of West Germany is also to the right. I am comparatively happy when these people on the right come into power.
 
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AfD is quite a mixed bag, it basically has anything from alt-socialists to conservatives, to straight hitler cum lickers.



AfD began quite moderate, beame more and more extremist with the migration crisis and basically got blacklisted by media and all other parties (atleast those with government mandate), still blacklisted.


The subsequent f :) ck up of the greens and "social" democrats, liberals and the kneebending and capitulation of the Conservative CDU which adopted wokeism and deviant pederastry leads to this massive influx of new voters and member to AfD.


The outcome of which, defining the definite party line wrt China has still to be determined. A reshuffling of some party values is coming, especially with the next federal votes next year.


Having a conservative at AfD's head is good, having a racist nut job at its head will be pretty bad, even worse than status quo.


Good thing is, a good chunk is very US sceptical.
That is the nature of western democracy where no political party is equiped with a full package solution for the country in a long run, everybody is fighting for a short term rule and will find friend of convinience for that purpose. The current ruling traffic-light coalition is a wired mixed bag as much as AfD.

Because of this, I don't really think any of them have a true commitment to any values, they will adapt to the need to stay in the game of power. What actually differs AfD from the main-stream parties is that they care more of solid matters inside the country, instead of "democrazy adventures".

BTW, I am skeptical of MSM labeling "racist" or "radical" on a large party who represents a large chunk of population. A few nut head racists are there in AfD, but also many inside the mainstream parties. For one, keeping the border closed to any foreigners except tourists, students, skilled workers and business people is a common practice all over the world. If AfD is "racist" for that, everybody is. If AfD want to keep the door shut to refugees, it is the right of the citizens, afterall, charity is kindness but not obligation. The western liberals have been doing moral hijacking, blackmailing and concept manipulation for the past many decades both domestically and internationally. China and Chinese have fall victim of such attacks, so I will give AfD a pass for the moment.
 

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You're a year late man. That schtick was already pushed and tried by the SOB's from Falun Geeks propagandist last year which were then carried and printed by Western media propagandists.
Oh please with how those losers have been literally typing the same China is collapsing bullshit for almost 3 decades and have only gotten the opposite, if a Chinese general did that, they would be fapping none stop only to be denied the moment they found out that it was in preparation for a ceremony match. Imagine the frustration that would come simply being denied because they don’t live in the real world, kinda like Biden right now although he probably needs a dummy and change in nappy given his performance right now
 

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That is the nature of western democracy where no political party is equiped with a full package solution for the country in a long run, everybody is fighting for a short term rule and will find friend of convinience for that purpose. The current ruling traffic-light coalition is a wired mixed bag as much as AfD.

Because of this, I don't really think any of them have a true commitment to any values, they will adapt to the need to stay in the game of power. What actually differs AfD from the main-stream parties is that they care more of solid matters inside the country, instead of "democrazy adventures".

BTW, I am skeptical of MSM labeling "racist" or "radical" on a large party who represents a large chunk of population. A few nut head racists are there in AfD, but also many inside the mainstream parties. For one, keeping the border closed to any foreigners except tourists, students, skilled workers and business people is a common practice all over the world. If AfD is "racist" for that, everybody is. If AfD want to keep the door shut to refugees, it is the right of the citizens, afterall, charity is kindness but not obligation. The western liberals have been doing moral hijacking, blackmailing and concept manipulation for the past many decades both domestically and internationally. China and Chinese have fall victim of such attacks, so I will give AfD a pass for the moment.
Problem is, germany is lib scum territory, any diverging opinion is holocaust and anti gay.


Don't really know what caused this as (inter-)country wide phenomena, I don't even know why people support ACAB, only the Mutt police and maybe the other angloids are that level of BS. German Police is quite tame compared to the mutt's.


I presume no real realpolitik except being americas dog was formulated after reunification with the east, causing a value vacuum and a senseless existence for all millenials and gen Z in germany regarding a common goal for the country.


Not gonna be apologetic for AfD but their racist nutjobbery is never so hyper focused on the asians as the Republican's.

Asians actually get most often a pass, since most AfD people dont believe in covid anyways, so not much fault in China for "spreading the virus to the woeld".

Also Chinese usually dont rape minors, some certain groups do that more frequently.
 
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