Miscellaneous News

I find it amusing that people who were until recently so enamoured with Russia's 23-D string theory chess moves are now howling and baying for China to intervene. If you believe everything is a master ploy by Putin, why don't you believe this is as well? If you finally came around to the idea that Russia's shitting the bed (hint: it's been shitting the bed for a while now, it's been going on since the fall of the Soviet Union), why do you think it's China's job to clean up the mess?

Before I continue, I'd first like to congratulate you for acquainting yourself with the radical idea that sometimes things are as they seem. This is and always has been an attempted putsch by a guy with a private army who let it get to his head; that's all there is to it. It's not to distract the Ukrainians, it's not to confuse the West, it's not to draw out Putin's enemies or whatever other ideas were entertained here.

Having said all that, you have no idea what China's doing behind the scenes. How much or whether it supports Putin is a decision for the Chinese government to make, and they have access to information, intelligence, and cognitive capacity that no one here can imagine. Don't presume to tell a grandmaster how to play the game. This is a spectator sport and you are an observer, not a participant.

ZeEa5KPul said:

I find it amusing that people who were until recently so enamoured with Russia's 23-D string theory chess moves are now howling and baying for China to intervene. If you believe everything is a master ploy by Putin, why don't you believe this is as well? If you finally came around to the idea that Russia's shitting the bed (hint: it's been shitting the bed for a while now, it's been going on since the fall of the Soviet Union), why do you think it's China's job to clean up the mess?

Before I continue, I'd first like to congratulate you for acquainting yourself with the radical idea that sometimes things are as they seem. This is and always has been an attempted putsch by a guy with a private army who let it get to his head; that's all there is to it. It's not to distract the Ukrainians, it's not to confuse the West, it's not to draw out Putin's enemies or whatever other ideas were entertained here.

Having said all that, you have no idea what China's doing behind the scenes. How much or whether it supports Putin is a decision for the Chinese government to make, and they have access to information, intelligence, and cognitive capacity that no one here can imagine. Don't presume to tell a grandmaster how to play the game. This is a spectator sport and you are an observer, not a participant.

Click to expand...

Even calling us observers is probably too 'high of a praise', since we can only see and observe a little big of the whole picture.

ansy1968 said:

Bro what's Prigozhin Wagner situation? If they still hold up and not moving then it's the end for him and his associates. His emotional tantrums is affecting his judgment from hero of Bakhmut to traitor of Mother Russia.

Click to expand...

Prigozhin has gone off the rails a long time ago. Putin should have put him into place. Instead he let him have free reign, be actively insubordinate to the command of the Russian armed forces, so Putin is responsible for this idiocy. I think the worst thing was when Prigozhin started beating up regular Russian Army units which he claimed were withdrawing near Bakhmut. He should have been taken out right then and there. As an auxiliary force he had no right of doing something like that.
Prigozhin overestimates his own importance. That is why he thought he could get away with this act in the first place. He felt they were pulling the rug from under him with the end of the contracts of the Russian government with the PMCs. To retain his power base he pulled this stunt. Well I doubt it will end well for him. Since people have died already, I doubt he will get to live.

MortyandRick said:

Lol yeah sure when Harvard reaches 100% Chinese Americans then I would be happy to support affirmative action as well. They just reached less than 30% admission for all Asians. That's pretty freaking far from dominating admissions and now already have discriminating policies against asian and you're trying to justify it.

Click to expand...

Why should it accept all Asians that academically qualify when college applications in America has never been based solely on merit nor does that reflect the diverse ethnic backgrounds of the country. You only have around 1500 seats per year.

Assuming most Asians will major in STEM, how does that impact the Political Science school, the Education department or the School of fine arts if 80-100% of your students are Asian.

Or is the school , and the students themselves, better served when there is greater diversity. Many of their future interactions in life will be with people of different ethnicities. People talking nonsense when they say any elite university in American should be 100% Asian.

MortyandRick said:

I see you having a negative view on most things Chinese. Why wouldn't Harvard be Harvard with 80% Asian students? It was Harvard when it was 100% white.

Click to expand...

Lol, would Tsinghua really still be Tsinghua as we know it, if it is 100% white.

KYli said:

Without golden urn and blessing from the central government, any incarnation couldn't be legitimate. Beside, Panchen Lama has a lot of say in naming the next Dalai Lama.

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

Click to expand...

Didn't the 13th Dalai Lama tried to assassinate the 9th Panchen Lama?

Petrolicious88 said:

Why should it accept all Asians that academically qualify when college applications in America has never been based solely on merit nor does that reflect the diverse ethnic backgrounds of the country. You only have around 1500 seats per year.

Assuming most Asians will major in STEM, how does that impact the Political Science school, the Education department or the School of fine arts if 80-100% of your students are Asian.

Or is the school , and the students themselves, better served when there is greater diversity. Many of their future interactions in life will be with people of different ethnicities. People talking nonsense when they say any elite university in American should be 100% Asian.

Lol, would Tsinghua really still be Tsinghua as we know it, if it is 100% white.

Click to expand...

Tsinghua would ofc be different if it was 100% white.

Although if we went with earlier about how grades is the would be all for admission, it would mean that Tsinghua would be full of einstein level geniuses in every subject, that are all natively born and grown up in China.

ZeEa5KPul said:

Having said all that, you have no idea what China's doing behind the scenes. How much or whether it supports Putin is a decision for the Chinese government to make, and they have access to information, intelligence, and cognitive capacity that no one here can imagine. Don't presume to tell a grandmaster how to play the game. This is a spectator sport and you are an observer, not a participant.

Click to expand...

This is the same logic that people used to support the Putin 4D chess master theory... Something governments can be wrong or make the wrong moves. Russia had all the information it needed on Ukraine and yet completely misread the situation, hell they're mis-reading their own politics, that's why the coup is even a thing.

From what I could tell, China didn't want the Ukraine war. They poured billions into Ukraine before the war, they knew that the geopolitical situation would be heightened after the War, that the West would unite and start rearming again, they would be upsetting their biggest customers, they would have to disengage from Russia or face sanctions. There's nothing to gain for China, even if Russia did take over Ukraine in 3 days. They allowed it anyway, when it's clear that Chinese support for Russia is the only thing that is keeping Russia going for so long. If China had issued an ultimatum, invade Ukraine and we stop trade with you, would Russia have invaded? Probably not. Or over the year long war, another ultimatum "we will stop trade and invade if you don't make peace" or something along those lines could have forced Russia into a ceasefire or peace deal, whether Putin like it or not. China and Russia are not equal partners, China needs to act like a superpower and actually throw it's weight around, not act like it's blameless.

Do you know why superpowers are superpowers? It's not just that they're powerful. It's that the world revolves around them, every war, every policy made by countries, trade deals, coups, everything is done or influenced with a superpower in mind. China is a superpower now. Even the tiniest thing that they do has massive ramifications around the globe, even China staying neutral and buying Russian oil and letting Russia destroying itself is partly China's fault when there's no way Putin would have carried out the invasion if China had been opposed to it, or when China could have easily forced Putin to negotiate a bad peace deal anytime she wanted.

Just look at NK. Do you really think China wants NK to be a failed state that stirs up tension with important trading partners in the region and refuses to developed and sucks up Chinese aid like a black hole? Is it some 40 year long 4D plan by China? No, of course they would rather NK be China's version of SK/Japan, wealthy, developed, able to trade more valuable goods and services and still acts like a Chinese vassal state. And yet even after decades, they fail to open NK up and actually enact polices to make NK more developed. And yes, this failed states shitting the bed is kinda China's fault when it's the main nation enabling them, NK won't exist with Chinese support, Russia won't have started or continued the failing war without China's support and China propping the economy up.

Again, just watch as China does nothing again as Russia just continues to degrade and degrade until you got another dozen nuclear armed rouge states all bordering China.

ZeEa5KPul said:

why do you think it's China's job to clean up the mess?

Click to expand...

This attitude is exactly the problem with Chinese foreign policy. All the countries that today have reasonably competent leadership are western allies. China can try to work with them, but it's very difficult to move them out of the American orbit.

There are however some countries that are less competent, partially because they haven't been part of American led globalization. You can't expect them to be perfect allies immediately. They need help. Just as America made post war western Europe, Korea and Japan wealthy by opening its markets to them, China should offer better market access and investment. Spreading belt and road over the entire world is just not very effective. It needs a more sustained effort, as China is trying to do in Pakistan now. But even with Pakistan, there is limited help with their political problems that are turning them into a failed state. Russia, Iran, North Korea, Afghanistan, Myanmar and many others need help and protection.

So yes, China should help others sort out their issues. That's how you turn a transactional relationship into true friendship. And only by building up allies can you expect them to be helpful when China might need help in a future conflict. Today it would be laughable to expect any of the sanctioned countries other than maybe Russia to provide significant help to China. But there could be so much more

ZeEa5KPul said:

I find it amusing that people who were until recently so enamoured with Russia's 23-D string theory chess moves are now howling and baying for China to intervene. If you believe everything is a master ploy by Putin, why don't you believe this is as well? If you finally came around to the idea that Russia's shitting the bed (hint: it's been shitting the bed for a while now, it's been going on since the fall of the Soviet Union), why do you think it's China's job to clean up the mess?

Before I continue, I'd first like to congratulate you for acquainting yourself with the radical idea that sometimes things are as they seem. This is and always has been an attempted putsch by a guy with a private army who let it get to his head; that's all there is to it. It's not to distract the Ukrainians, it's not to confuse the West, it's not to draw out Putin's enemies or whatever other ideas were entertained here.

Having said all that, you have no idea what China's doing behind the scenes. How much or whether it supports Putin is a decision for the Chinese government to make, and they have access to information, intelligence, and cognitive capacity that no one here can imagine. Don't presume to tell a grandmaster how to play the game. This is a spectator sport and you are an observer, not a participant.

Click to expand...

Couldn't agree more. Whenever I said that things are not going well in the past, I got swarmed by Putin fanboys who said that every setback is actually a hyper 6D plan.

Bellum_Romanum said:

There's a video I saw on Reddit where the PMC WAGNER Chief met and conversed with Russian Military deputy defense minister Yevkurov and Deputy of the General Staff Alekseev. It's alleged that Prigozhin told both men of his intentions on holding the area (don't know where the meeting took place) and his March towards Moscow.

Click to expand...

They may want to involve others to get credit.

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

Eyewitnesses in the city documented what they said was the entry of Russian military vehicles loaded with fighters of the Chechen "Ahmed" forces, to secure the city and its citizens from any dangers that might arise from the rebellion of "Wagner" forces.

Click to expand...

Bellum_Romanum said:

This whole saga that's unfolding in Russia, amongst Russian Military people and leaders are just embarassing as f... With this recent development, how is Russia going to be able to shake up their already mauled image of a country run by competent leadership with mature, sensible, and sober people. In which their ambitions are checked for the sake of their state/fatherland/motherland and not look like a bunch of squabbling little children complaining that they're not getting the latest toys, or not being favored by their Papa, in this case by President Putin?

Click to expand...

Russia did two largest gatherings of world Muslims intellectuals and businessmen in May and June in Kazan and Saint Petersburg where Gulf Arabs were prominent. Putin speech in economic form is already there but what about others that is not reported.
It certainly not about latest toys.