Sorry bro, If China act like the US, then she lost the battle (joining the dark side which Obama offer to China to form the G2), why on earth will the Global South want another bully. Non Interference is China calling card, it makes her unique and different from the Collective West and that policy is gaining traction because it provide an alternative.
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There's plenty of ways to influence a country other than via CIA backed coups, sanctions and threats of invasions you know.
When Mongolia attacked Western Xia they begged Song Empire for help. Song Emperor ignored them. We all know what happened to Song in the end.
And China is doing just that by being different from the Collective West,
China have at lot of tools to work on unlike the US which solely rely on security. Just like my brother @horse used to say, SHOW ME THE MONEYYYYYY.The situation has become eerie. Although Putin issued a stern speech, it did not seem to have further exacerbated the conflict.The advance of the Wagner Legion did not seem to be truly hindered.
The real conflict has not yet begun. The matter cannot be concluded until the last moment.
This is destined to be a day when everyone is caught off guard.
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Thanks bro, what I heard is that the Wagner is stuck and being surrounded, If they advance where will they get the logistic to move on Moscow in open fields and an easy target for Russian Airforce?
Well, judging from far sighted plans such as belt-and-road to recent developments such as bringing peace to Middle East, I would say that China has played its card exceptionally well. Even merely judging from economic growth and technological advances, modern China has effectively exceeded everything prior to it in history in development.
I would rather argue:
"what the hell happened to White Europeans and their descendants these past few decades? Seriously."
A coup attempt is mild compared to what some countries allies experienced during the Cold War. South Korea and South Vietnam had coups every few years. today South Vietnam is gone.
Totally agree with your assessments and observations on China's perplexing foreign policy approach even with its own supposed allies. Either Chinese leadership are GUN SHY, AFRAID TO MAKE THEIR HANDS DIRTY or NAIVE ON THE REALITIES OF THE WORLD in which they are surrounded with UNCERTAINTIES, UNPREDICTABILITY, AND WAR THAT CAN AND WILL ERUPT at her doorstep like it or not.
Somehow, in my ignorant and rather elementary views of China's foreign policy they are just not at all interested in offering any security details to would be countries. The relationships are rather transactional and not all deep or culturally encompassing that enables China's hard earned investment aren't washed away in one fell swoop through internal coup directed by the West, informational greyzone tactics ably applied by India. China plays defensively everywhere or at least perceived to be defensive and reactive in many if not most of its dealings. Take the case of Italy abruptly ending its BRI initiative with China, and the blatant theft of one of it's business with Perelli tires essentially neutering Chinese company into irrelevance. Am I supposed to believe that China was not aware that such a plan from the incoming and now Italian government were not foreseen? What's the point of those intelligence services that China employs and funds with giant budgets?
For all the criticisms I have of India, in my mind, they know how to fight back the information war rightly or wrongly. I just find some of the Chinese thinking and approach rather child like with the idiocy that if only they would work harder, and keep talking about win-win the western world will finally see the virtue of Chinese way. I understand it's a strawman argument am making but it's the impression I have made.
But, am obviously making my points from a far since I have not been to the country in a while. I am quite interested in the opinions of our members here to point out the errors of my perception and thinking with regards to China's foreign policy approach vis-à-vis ACTUAL ACTIVE INTERFERENCE WITH OTHER COUNTRIES AFFAIRS.