Absurd. There is nothing good that can come from the PLA jumping in and 'winning' the war for Russia.
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Here is an article that elaborates on the current internal contradictions in Russia.
“It is expected that the internal chaos in Russia will subside quickly, but the political impact of this action on the current Russian regime will be enormous. Russia should accelerate its pursuit of a ceasefire.”
——However, I believe that the emergence of such incidents indicates that a compromise based on the current situation will be difficult to accept, and the scale of the war may expand.
The article calls on (China) to do whatever it takes to stabilize the situation in Russia. In the comments, the author pointed out that "at all costs" means to do everything possible to provide weapons to Russia.
Depending on how the rebellion goes, there could be increasing (already started this past month) talk for using nuclear weapons
And now you know why AMERICA insist on MEDDLING WITH COUNTRIES INTERNAL Issues, especially their ALLIES to ensure shit like the ones happening in Russia can and will be nip in the bud by all means necessary. I don't know whether such a strategy works or not but I definitely understand the rationale and logic behind it.
Do you guys think that China will ALWAYS BE ON THE DEFENSIVE IF IT CONTINUES TO ASSUME what I can only describe as hands off approach with her so-called allies like Russia? Couldn't China and its leaders under Xi at least offer some sort of intelligence to his Russian counterpart about the looming and is now present coup attempt by Prigozhin? Was China's own MSS just sitting back if somehow they had prior intelligence that such a scenario was likely to unfold and decided to do nothing while it's so-called Ally is in a literal shit show?
The whole mess started with Putin's delusions (from last year). What could China do to diffuse this matter? China can help all it wants but if Putin is an idiot, there is no possibility for such help to actually do something (and it would most likely backfire)
China is still relatively new to meddling in other countries' internal affairs; as time goes on you will see it in more depth and breadth. Right now it still lags in experience compared to Russia and the US.
And with this shit show, I believe that EU/NATO has found a new kink in the armor to attack the China-Russia relationship depending on the outcome on political and military situation in Russia. If Russia collapse and its possible if Putin is toppled then China looks like the loser in terms of global public perception. A weaken and collapsed Russia will do nothing to help improve China's existential war with the West including a much invigorated India that's going to further aligned itself more and more likely to America since a Russian collapse would also mean Russian influence in groupings like BRICS, SCO would mean a much more CHINA CENTRED organizations. And since India is wisely trying to take its position to be used as a strategic bulwark against an assertive China it'll more than likely would want to shape the internal politics of those two Chinese centric organizations to their liking with tacit approval and endorsements from China's main strategic enemies, namely America and the West.
Countries like Japan, South Korea, and others may see the opportunity of Russia Collapsing further cementing their alliance with the U.S. not to mention a more provocative actions in East China Sea, the South China Sea, and most importantly in Taiwan.
Chinese way of non-interference must be carefully reexamined or calibrated to reflect the fast changing global landscape and its volatility to help prevent, disrupt crises from starting in the first place where cost is going to be lower and not wait for the shitshow to happen losing billions of investments along with the country's strategic interest in the process.
China has been helping Russia with intel all along, it's just up to the Russians to use it correctly.
Capitalist, Western democratic governments just cannot be trusted to work that well. The Russia currently pissing and shitting itself is also the same Russia that all of US' allies couldn't slow down economically (and lost their trained forces to).
To get better bang for it's buck, China would need to create governments in its own image.
Imo the way it looks now, this is heavily Russia's internal dispute, that is to say, Shoigu and Prigozhin's conflict. And Prigozhin got royally done in by Shoigu. He probably expected Russian ultranationalists to immediately support him, leave him a path open to Kremlin and even Putin's support in ousting Shoigu. Except Shoigu had stacked his support in advance.
The way China can help is by ending the war sooner. But it's not guaranteed that either Putin or Shoigu will learn from this. They might possibly take it as a warning and accelerate the war, or they will beat Prigozhin so thoroughly that it will just affirm their belief in snorlax doctrine even more. If the latter happens, Russia will keep pressing towards finishing the war at its own pace, without significant foreign aid.
At least if Prigozhin wins, the ultranationalists would let China flood the zone with weapons while they flood it with men. But with nil support, Prigozhin was set up to die.
Aren't the Russian ultra nationalist fervently anti-China? I mean we had a Russian politician of that same ultra nationalist streak who demanded that PLAN'S LIAONING be given back to them since it belonged to Russia in the first place. Plus, those group see themselves more as White power rather than be subservient or even equal to the Chinese whom they regard negatively.
For people like me who lack information channels, the leadership is always in a fog, and many people speculate that they must have some great strategy, but it is obvious that some people do not think so.
I try not to think in a worse direction as much as possible.
I don't know what the reason is. Our national strength has not met our expectations? Or are bureaucrats more cowardly and foolish than we imagine? Or is it that the leadership has a very calm judgment?