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Eventine said:

China is being baited over Taiwan, but Taiwan isn't going to fight alone. That's what's happening right now - the building of a security alliance in East Asia for the purpose of starting a proxy war over Taiwan.

All the latest news are building up to this. Yoon's election, Marcos Jr.'s election, the Move Forward Party's election - all of these are pieces of a larger whole. Japan and South Korea making peace with each other, Yoon's minstrel submission to the US, Marcos Jr.'s about turn on China; why do you think these are all happening at once? Coincidence? Liberal wave?

No. This is the US activating its assets in East Asia. Preparing the field.

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New study finds U.S. responsible for nearly 300 million deaths—and counting​

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Bellum_Romanum said:

Quit using the PH into this discussion because THE PH MILITARY IS A CANNON FODDER PERIOD. South Korea, Japan, Taiwan sure but the PH hell NO. Please elucidate how the PH can make the PLA sweat or what meaningful contribution it can bring to the table against China. I can't wait for your reply.

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Eventine said:

I already said it: Taiwan.

Taiwan is a maritime fight. Not a land war. Therefore it'll be a naval and aerial conflict, and guess what, South Korea and Japan are both fairly competent naval and air powers. Both host US bases, as well, which means that if China starts bombing them directly, it'll trigger a war with the US.

I'm saying - this is the way they intend to engage - South Korea and Japan sail to Taiwan's defense on the front lines, while the US sits back and plays support. China is forced to fight those navies and air forces with one hand tied behind its back because if it starts bombing their bases, that triggers an all-out war vs. the US. So either China bites the bullet and goes all-out (low/moderate chance of victory) against the entire alliance, or (ideally for the US) it tries to do what Russia is doing in Ukraine, which is fight with one hand tied behind its back while the US supports from a distance. The latter may seem an "easier" fight but it is ultimately even more draining and beneficial to the US.

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Eventine said:

Russia's been shot at for a year and still hasn't declared Ukraine to be an actual war. Ukrainian drones are literally flying into Moscow to assassinate Putin and he's still not declaring war. NATO trainers, advisors, spy planes, mercenaries, and special forces are operating in Ukraine right at this moment.

Countries will thread this needle every time when they want to avoid escalation. The US is betting that China won't be willing to escalate and so it can get away with having its East Asian vassals do the bulk of the work. It's betting that any conflict over Taiwan will be a limited conflict that is fought primarily over military targets. In such scenarios, South Korea and Japan can do a lot of damage without the US formally joining the war (because its defense treaties with Japan and South Korea only requires it to defend their land; it doesn't require it to defend their military assets sent against China).

I can easily see a future in which the US states, "we fully support our allies' committed defense of Taiwan and will do everything in our power to help them succeed. However, rest assured, American troops will not be fighting China."

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Eventine said:

I already said it: Taiwan.

Taiwan is a maritime fight. Not a land war. Therefore it'll be a naval and aerial conflict, and guess what, South Korea and Japan are both fairly competent naval and air powers. Both host US bases, as well, which means that if China starts bombing them directly, it'll trigger a war with the US.

I'm saying - this is the way they intend to engage - South Korea and Japan sail to Taiwan's defense on the front lines, while the US sits back and plays support. China is forced to fight those navies and air forces with one hand tied behind its back because if it starts bombing their bases, that triggers an all-out war vs. the US. So either China bites the bullet and goes all-out (low/moderate chance of victory) against the entire alliance, or (ideally for the US) it tries to do what Russia is doing in Ukraine, which is fight with one hand tied behind its back while the US supports from a distance. The latter may seem an "easier" fight but it is ultimately even more draining and beneficial to the US.

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montyp165 said:

Any war will end up going total if it actually breaks out, but China is already near the point where it would be fully capable of doing to the US what the US did to Japan, even if the entire US and it's allies were fully engaged in the fighting, that's what folks don't seem to understand.

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jwnz said:

Export ban of bananas, pineapples, mangoes, and durians, let's see how long the PLA can sustain providing nutritional and balanced meals to the troops.

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Eventine said:

Russia's been shot at for a year and still hasn't declared Ukraine to be an actual war. Ukrainian drones are literally flying into Moscow to assassinate Putin and he's still not declaring war. NATO trainers, advisors, spy planes, mercenaries, and special forces are operating in Ukraine right at this moment.

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