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pmc

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China's counter air complex is the most capable ever built. Unless they're using IRBMs they're gonna need literally thousands of missiles to do operationally significant damage.
how do you know that?. Systems like Patriot and Thaad are refined over long time and deployed in Mideast in addition UAE ordered newest Korean SAMs and GaN AWACS . They wealthy countries and cannot afford this continuous surveillance over much smaller area when things drags out over years.

If Russia's aerial operations are so effective then why haven't they conducted any SEAD operations since the beginning of the war? If Russia is able to use its strategic bombers to drop cheap gravity bombs onto uke cities, this war would be over a week.
you are presuming they not doing SEAD and ignoring that Russia has deployed largest helicopter fleet of modern war.
but one thig is clear that most of Russian missiles were launched from around Caspian Sea this show confidence in manufacturing quality to send to stuff from such a distance. and Ukrainians numbers cannot be taken as reliable. these are all estimates.
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In addition, according to Ihnat, the complexity of these calculations is also due to the fact that the Ukrainian Air Force did not have its current capabilities in the first weeks of the war, so it is difficult to establish where and what the Russian army used against Ukraine at that time.
 

FairAndUnbiased

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Russia's been shot at for a year and still hasn't declared Ukraine to be an actual war. Ukrainian drones are literally flying into Moscow to assassinate Putin and he's still not declaring war. NATO trainers, advisors, spy planes, mercenaries, and special forces are operating in Ukraine right at this moment.

Countries will thread this needle every time when they want to avoid escalation. The US is betting that China won't be willing to escalate and so it can get away with having its East Asian vassals do the bulk of the work. It's betting that any conflict over Taiwan will be a limited conflict that is fought primarily over military targets. In such scenarios, South Korea and Japan can do a lot of damage without the US formally joining the war (because its defense treaties with Japan and South Korea only requires it to defend their land; it doesn't require it to defend their military assets sent against China).

I can easily see a future in which the US states, "we fully support our allies' committed defense of Taiwan and will do everything in our power to help them succeed. However, rest assured, American troops will not be fighting China."

East Asia is not Europe. Europe has a safe rear - the Atlantic and Mediterranean where Russia has no influence and where Russian conventional forces can't reach from the border even with no resistance. Europe also has fuel self sufficiency through North Sea and Norwegian offshore oil, and pipeline imports from the Middle East. They also have food self sufficiency. Most of all, any Russian Army advance will be through highly populated urban areas that will resist every step of the way and grind their field forces down.

East Asia outside China has no real safe rear. South Korean, Filipino, Japanese and especially Taiwanese supply routes run through Chinese EEZ waters. The routes that don't, are under Chinese fire control. None of them have food or fuel self sufficiency.

The only way to supply Japan free of Chinese fire control - not South Korea or Taiwan - is a roundabout way around Australia unloading in Honshu, but that still leaves the critical forward operating bases of Okinawa, Kyushu and Shikoku isolated. Taiwan and SK are outright unable to be resupplied effectively.

It is also hard to enforce limited war in East Asia due to international airspace. In Ukraine, Russia and NATO are both limited by hard borders that define zones of conflict and non-conflict.

In East Asia, both sides can legally fly planes up to 12 miles from the borders in peacetime. There is no enforced separation of conflict and non-conflict zones. This means that surprise attacks are much more devastating and limited not by borders or legality, but capability.
 

TK3600

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Russia's been shot at for a year and still hasn't declared Ukraine to be an actual war. Ukrainian drones are literally flying into Moscow to assassinate Putin and he's still not declaring war. NATO trainers, advisors, spy planes, mercenaries, and special forces are operating in Ukraine right at this moment.

Countries will thread this needle every time when they want to avoid escalation. The US is betting that China won't be willing to escalate and so it can get away with having its East Asian vassals do the bulk of the work. It's betting that any conflict over Taiwan will be a limited conflict that is fought primarily over military targets. In such scenarios, South Korea and Japan can do a lot of damage without the US formally joining the war (because its defense treaties with Japan and South Korea only requires it to defend their land; it doesn't require it to defend their military assets sent against China).

I can easily see a future in which the US states, "we fully support our allies' committed defense of Taiwan and will do everything in our power to help them succeed. However, rest assured, American troops will not be fighting China."
It is Ukraine's right to defend itself. Any large scale direct attack on China is an act of war per your description. If your best argument is Ukraine sending few drone equals entire Japanese navy is involved shooting then you are a bigger dumbass than I previously thought.
 

TK3600

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jwnz

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Is cruise ship particularly hard to make that makes it a crown jewel? Pretty sure LNG ship is the pinacle of complexity.
As a layman in naval architecture, I can only hazard a guess with the following points.

Structural integrity should be easier to achieve as the many rooms would act like honeycombs providing the needed strength.

Air conditioning, plumbing, wiring & electrical systems, monitoring, fire suppression, etc would be significantly more complex to design and build than any other types of civilian ships.

Stability would be harder to achieve compared to container and tanker ships as the load of over 6000 people (pax + crew) moving around and the higher centre of gravity due to the height, and also you can't keep all pax below deck all the time.

Last but not the least, all the hotel quality level fit out would take craftsmanship and is time consuming.
 
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FairAndUnbiased

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As a layman in naval architecture, I can only hazard a guess with the following points.

Structural integrity should be easier to achieve as the many rooms would act like honeycombs providing the needed strength.

Air conditioning, plumbing, wiring & electrical systems, monitoring, fire suppression, etc would be significantly more complex to design and build than any other types of civilian ships.

Stability would be harder to achieve compared to container and tanker ships as the load of over 6000 people (pax + crew) moving around and the higher centre of gravity due to the height, and also you can't keep all pax below deck all the time.

Last but not the least, all the hotel quality level fit out would take craftsmanship and is time consuming.
The mass of people moving around is negligible though... Total mass of 6000 people each weighing 100 kg is just 600 tons which is nothing compared to a container ship.
 

Sardaukar20

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#blacklivesmatter
I have a different opinion. I have a strong feeling that that gang, vandalizing that Chinese restaurant are paid anti-China mobs. Probably recruited from whatever ethnicity. I suspect, a good amount of trash hanjian activists from HK, TW, or China. I'm confident that these people are paid, because they covered their identities. Most black hooligans and looters don't even bother to cover their faces. Even many of those who commit Asian-hate crimes were unmasked. So whoever this gang is, they are paid people.

All of this is racist stupidity. All they are doing is making it easier for the Chinese community in America to choose China first.
 
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