Hong Kongers are 99% Chinese but HK rioters still hate Chinese and look down on mainland Chinese Similarly, Taiwanese have similar superior complex that is totally outdated. After years of brainwashing with hatred, you can produce many self-hating hanjians. Many SEA people got fed a lot of bias and hate from Taiwan, the US and HK media and social media. It is no wonder that some of their youngsters have become brainwashed and lost in touch of reality.
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Truth matters.
It is a Confucian thing, I believe it is jing ming, the rectification of names. Some philosophical concept, forget, been drinking.
If they believe in something fake or false, well, then, they got nothing.
Those misguided youth in Hong Kong, got crushed their movement, then they ran to Britain, for some of them only to be crushed again.
Fake stuff don't work.
False gods are a way to ruin.
China does not believe in false gods.
Cheers!
Blast from the past!
This is what Lee Kwan Yui said about Taiwan, when he was not even that old.
All roads for Taiwan lead to China.
Taiwan can be pragmatic and engage with the mainland and at the end of that road it must travel it will be in good shape. If Taiwan takes another attitude that resorts to confrontation and mistrust, it will arrive at the same destination weaker and tried.
Lee Kwan Yui said this maybe 10-15 years before he died.
The man just knew stuff.
Nowadays, we can take his impression of the neighborhood, and start applying it to different countries.
So, now all these other small countries going to take the confrontational approach to China, and how will that pay dividends down the road?
Might was well move out of ASEAN or Korea to Hong Kong, protest, then move to England.
That is what the Communist Part of China, the legitimate government of the country and civilization, will do it is real enemies, it will annihilate them. No joke.
That is why the CCP is so popular. It acts a little restrained nowadays, but it has a track record.
This is what Lee Kwan Yui said about Taiwan, when he was not even that old.
All roads for Taiwan lead to China.
Taiwan can be pragmatic and engage with the mainland and at the end of that road it must travel it will be in good shape. If Taiwan takes another attitude that resorts to confrontation and mistrust, it will arrive at the same destination weaker and tried.
Lee Kwan Yui said this maybe 10-15 years before he died.
The man just knew stuff.
Nowadays, we can take his impression of the neighborhood, and start applying it to different countries.
So, now all these other small countries going to take the confrontational approach to China, and how will that pay dividends down the road?
Might was well move out of ASEAN or Korea to Hong Kong, protest, then move to England.
That is what the Communist Part of China, the legitimate government of the country and civilization, will do it is real enemies, it will annihilate them. No joke.
That is why the CCP is so popular. It acts a little restrained nowadays, but it has a track record.
Again... It's a propaganda weakness inherent to authoritarianism.
Young people rebelling against the establishment and embracing the idea of democracy is an age old story. It is the perfect demographic for Western influence campaigns to target because it fits the psychological profile so well. Young people every where resent the fact that they lack political power, believe they know more than everybody else, and yearn to be free of all authority. These facts make them very susceptible to the promises of liberal democracy, because liberalism is all about empowering the individual, rebelling against authority, and pursuing freedom above all else.
It's not until people get into their thirties and forties that they realize the world doesn't work that way; and that the "freedom" offered by the West is nothing more than a different form of enslavement. When the thrill of protesting on the streets and throwing rocks at the police wears off, they will realize no, you can't survive off of pride parades and smoking weed and "revolution in our time." That there are objective power dynamics at play, which Western media actively attempts to hide in an effort to fool people into acting against their own interests.
Unfortunately, young people must be taught the hard way about these lessons; and the failure of their societies is the price they must pay. Look at the Arab Spring - that was an attempt by the West to rally the Muslim youth to the cause of liberal democracy. It brought little more than chaos across the Arab world, didn't move them up in the world what so ever, and failed in pretty much all of its goals.
The same will repeat, else where. Liberal democracy doesn't bring freedom to countries - it makes them vassals to the West. Look at the Koreans and their president's shameful display in Washington; or the Japanese and their commercial interests getting wrecked by US sanctions. Look at the pathetic birth rates across East Asia, and the South American countries run by drug lords. But democracy is a hell of a drug - by the time their young people wake up to the state of their societies, it'll be too late. The worst is yet to come.
Young people rebelling against the establishment and embracing the idea of democracy is an age old story. It is the perfect demographic for Western influence campaigns to target because it fits the psychological profile so well. Young people every where resent the fact that they lack political power, believe they know more than everybody else, and yearn to be free of all authority. These facts make them very susceptible to the promises of liberal democracy, because liberalism is all about empowering the individual, rebelling against authority, and pursuing freedom above all else.
It's not until people get into their thirties and forties that they realize the world doesn't work that way; and that the "freedom" offered by the West is nothing more than a different form of enslavement. When the thrill of protesting on the streets and throwing rocks at the police wears off, they will realize no, you can't survive off of pride parades and smoking weed and "revolution in our time." That there are objective power dynamics at play, which Western media actively attempts to hide in an effort to fool people into acting against their own interests.
Unfortunately, young people must be taught the hard way about these lessons; and the failure of their societies is the price they must pay. Look at the Arab Spring - that was an attempt by the West to rally the Muslim youth to the cause of liberal democracy. It brought little more than chaos across the Arab world, didn't move them up in the world what so ever, and failed in pretty much all of its goals.
The same will repeat, else where. Liberal democracy doesn't bring freedom to countries - it makes them vassals to the West. Look at the Koreans and their president's shameful display in Washington; or the Japanese and their commercial interests getting wrecked by US sanctions. Look at the pathetic birth rates across East Asia, and the South American countries run by drug lords. But democracy is a hell of a drug - by the time their young people wake up to the state of their societies, it'll be too late. The worst is yet to come.
The Thai election results is very disappointing. The youths have overwhelmingly voting the anti-China party. They are making the same mistakes as the youths in all other democracies. The US is the master at fooling the naive youths in any nation. It worked in Europe, HK, Taiwan, SK, Malaysia, and Myanmar. American control of media and pop culture is just too powerful. China just doesn't do psyops, and that leaves the US to dominate the hearts and minds of any youths. Very frustrating, but this is the hard truth.
But let's look closer at Thailand. While there are no doubts that there are fervent anti-China idiots in Thailand, this election is actually a vote against Prayut Chan-o-cha and his cronies. Not a true vote against China. Like it or not, Prayut is not innocent at all in this affair. He is among the list of China-friendly, but also corrupt leaders. People like Najib Razak, Nawaz Sharif, Myanmar junta, etc. These leaders are easy to topple because their people generally hate them. Thailand's economy is not the worse in ASEAN, but it operates like a typical SEA economy. Corrupted, elite-favoured, and a large wealth gap. There is a general lack of upward mobility for the youths and the low income groups. Not the worse in ASEAN, but it's serious enough to piss off the youth.
Nevertheless, Thailand is not a true democracy. I suspect that the new Thai government will be coalition of the pro-US and the Shinawatra party. They are likely to talk to the military and royal faction and reach some sort of compromise. No extreme change in policies. Otherwise the military and the monarchy will loom over them in the background.
This is the best analysis. They don't hate Chinese or China. They hate the CCP. But they don't realise CCP with whatever shortcomings they have is the best bet for China. These youngsters think that by being 100% democratic their countries fate will change. That's not true, Singapore showed you why. It is not the ideology, it is the governance.
Yeah, that is my impression of Thailand, that it is a very traditional state, in the sense that there is the powerful and the weak, and the powerful usually has its way, like the feudal age type of set up.
These people never heard of class struggle. If they did, well, then, they are not doing it right.
Look at the Philippines class struggle. "People Power" finally overthrew the dictator Macros. However, after a while, everyone got rehabilitated, and Marcos Jr is in power, and the power relationships of the powerful and weak firmly reestablished in the Philippines.
That is why this Thai election result will change nothing.
They overthrew Marcos, to have Marcos Jr be their leader later.
ASEAN politics tend to run in the same circles.
That is why China's proposal of the win-win is so effective.
Internal problems in ASEAN countries, will keep that country weak. China win-win proposal is to not exploit that.
It's their country. They got to live with their own choices.
That young ''move forward" leader is bad news. Joshua Wong vibes and Harvard educated so likely extremely pro US and NED funded. I do not like this development even one bit. Several more American military bases + another hostile country incoming it seems.
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Move Forward's Pita Limjaroenrat speaks, confirming that he has talked to parties including Pheu Thai, Prachachart, Thai Sang Thai and the Thai Liberal Party. He says this puts his budding coalition in line for 308 seats. He adds that he is now in talks with another small party to get to 309 seats. "With this formula, it is clear that we have a full right to form a majority government," Pita says.
He says Move Forward, Pheu Thai and other parties have already set up a transition team.
He also issues a message for the 250 military-backed senators, whose votes have the power to sway the choice of prime minister. "It is time for the 250 senators to think and decide their stance, whether they would listen to the people's wish. If they care about the people, there will be no problem" for Move Forward to eventually form a majority government.
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Move Forward's Pita Limjaroenrat speaks, confirming that he has talked to parties including Pheu Thai, Prachachart, Thai Sang Thai and the Thai Liberal Party. He says this puts his budding coalition in line for 308 seats. He adds that he is now in talks with another small party to get to 309 seats. "With this formula, it is clear that we have a full right to form a majority government," Pita says.
He says Move Forward, Pheu Thai and other parties have already set up a transition team.
He also issues a message for the 250 military-backed senators, whose votes have the power to sway the choice of prime minister. "It is time for the 250 senators to think and decide their stance, whether they would listen to the people's wish. If they care about the people, there will be no problem" for Move Forward to eventually form a majority government.
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You know, it is that old saying.
History repeats. First time as a tragedy, second time as a farce.
So, are there rumblings of colour revolutions in ASEAN countries being fanned by the man behind the curtain? The senile one to be more precise!
A most definite maybe.
What is not in doubt, is that this is not the first time. It is not even the second time.
People may not remember the first time, but if the last time was farce, this time it is going to be farce again.
China will express their acknowledgement and sensitivity to local issue. The basis of state relations will remain on the foundational principles, and development will be based on the win-win framework.
Blah blah blah, boring as crap, but that crap works.
Got to admit though, the farce is always entertaining!
I agree. He is bad news for Thailand.
Thailand is a nice place, never visited there myself, but that is what everyone says.
Still Thailand, is like Thailand.
Just wait until he tries to do something, then realize how entrenched special interests are like.