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horse

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The Five Eyes steal his sub contract and he gets angry for like 3 days and back down. It's this aspect of him that I really dislike.

Marcon is okay.

Remember when the UAE cancelled their F-35 contract, so that they can keep Huawei gear inside their network?

The other part of that story, which no one really talks about, is that instead of buying the F-35, the UAE keeps Huawei in their networks, and goes buy Rafale fighters, from none other than Messieurs Marcon.

They do not talk about this, because this UAE deal with France, happened not too long after that Australian sub deal shenanigans.

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Guess the moral of the story is that in the end everyone is happy so no one talks about it anymore.

Until the Americans get that itch to ban something again.

Bwahahahahahahaaa!

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horse

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At the risk of offending people, the reality is that a language being older doesn't make it better, or cuneiform Sumerian would be the best language and oracle bone script would be the best writing system.

Also at the risk of offending people, a language typically is considered to sound smooth and melodic if it has low number of consonant endings outside N (in particular ejective consonant endings like -k, -g, -p, -t, -d), consistent sounding vowels, and vowel rich sentences.

That is why many people think Germanic languages (German itself in particular) are harsh sounding languages while Japanese and Latin languages like Spanish are considered to sound smooth - they tend to have vowel endings and non ejective consonant endings like -N or -S.

By that standard, standard Chinese is one of the smoothest sounding languages in the world next to Japanese, Spanish and Polynesian, with 0 ejective consonant endings, only vowel, N, NG and R endings.

Cantonese is on the other hand is like German, with multiple ejective -k, -p and -t consonant endings.

Tang poetry sounds better in Cantonese.

The debate is kind of over after that.

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FairAndUnbiased

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Sounding smooth does not make a language better necessarily. Cantonese has more intonations than Mandarin, and that makes Cantonese less confusing than Mandarin. When you have many characters of the same pronunciation you get mixed up.
True. The smoother a language is, the more potential for homophones. Japanese is the worst offender by far. Koushou for instance.

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LawLeadsToPeace

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Slightly offtopic but Cantonese is probably closer to Ancient Chinese because of rhyming.
What we know now as Mandarin is not the same as what was spoken before. As a matter of fact, the current iteration of Mandarin stems from Middle Mandarin which was developed during the Ming dynasty. The Hongwu emperor wanted to standardize the way the government officials spoke since there were too many dialects being used. So we really don’t know what dialects were taken in consideration when the Tang poems were written.

Finally for the smoothness and rhyme aspect, that’s relative. It sounds nice and rhyme-like to some but that doesn’t mean it sounds good to others. For example, in regards to Cantonese, I mean no offense but to me it sounds like a bunch of ducks quacking over bread. I guarantee you that Cantonese speakers will have an observation of modern Mandarin that is similar in nature. Nonetheless, my point still stands: it’s all relative and based on personal preference.
 
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tokenanalyst

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Stealing weapons deals from the US Military Industrial Complex? Looks that el presidente of South Korea is asking for some regime change.

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Better call Seoul: U.S. watches nervously as Europe turns to South Korea for weapons​


South Korea is racking up multibillion-dollar defense deals in Europe as Seoul pushes to become a bigger player in international weapons sales.
And it’s causing some jitters in the U.S. defense industry.

The contracts for tanks, fighter planes and rocket launchers — all signed within the past three months — come as European capitals look to restock their warehouses after months of sending their own equipment to Ukraine. And Eastern Europe, which normally turns to the U.S. for new weapons, is increasingly considering buying from South Korea instead, which says it can deliver them faster and cheaper.

South Korean defense firms have long been active in Europe, selling mobile howitzers and small arms to a number of countries over the past half-decade. But those deals have paled in comparison to the $5.8 billion blockbuster contract Poland signed with two South Korean companies in July. The agreement included 980 K2 Black Panther tanks, 672 K9 self-propelled howitzers and 48 FA-50 fighter planes, with deliveries on some of the tanks and howitzers expected to begin by the end of this year. The deals could be worth as much as $15 billion if all of the options are exercised in the coming years.
And last month, Poland signed a contract with South Korean company Hanwha Defense for 288 Chunmoo multiple rocket launchers, with the first batch arriving next year, instead of waiting years to begin receiving the U.S.-made High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems.
Poland was initially seeking as many as 500 HIMARS from the U.S., but at an Oct. 19 signing ceremony with his South Korean counterpart, Defense Minister Mariusz Błaszczak explained that “unfortunately due to limited industrial capabilities, it will not be possible for the equipment to be delivered in a satisfactory timeframe. Therefore, we started talks with South Korea — our proven partner.”
The sheer size of the contracts, and promises of a fast turnaround on delivery, has caught the attention of the defense industry in the U.S.
“There is concern from U.S. industry that this won’t stop with Poland,”
said one industry insider who has dealings multiple U.S. defense firms, and who — like others in this article — requested anonymity to speak about relations between the U.S., Europe and South Korea.

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gelgoog

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South Korea is racking up multibillion-dollar defense deals in Europe as Seoul pushes to become a bigger player in international weapons sales.
And it’s causing some jitters in the U.S. defense industry.
I sort of expected this to happen. South Korea and Japan are the only Western aligned countries actually building new tanks. And Japanese military hardware is ludicrously expensive. So that leaves South Korea basically. The US MIC is bloated and inefficient. Their land systems are also for the most part utterly obsolete. US tanks, IFVs, artillery, etc designs are some three decades older than the South Korean ones. Where the US MIC has an advantage is in fighter aircraft and large aircraft in general.

The KA-50 sale to Poland is kind of surprising to me though. I would have expected the Poles to buy the T-7 Red Hawk.
 
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