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Nobo

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supersnoop said:
US is mostly energy independent, but who's going to tell Chevron and ExxonMobil to give oil away for 'patriot' prices?
Remember when Biden scolded them for making money, but didn't actually do anything?
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Utopia is energy independent in same sense that i'm transport independent because i own a car though it doesn't run because i've no gas. Energy independence is an interesting concept that has two flow imo. Commercial supply & war time supply. Utopia created the illusion of being energy independent by fracking shell & making up for the cost of it by making other top producers keeping the price at certain level. China has largest shale oil/gas reserve in the world. It doesn't call itself energy independent. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 
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xypher

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Whatever happen to the US being oil independent? Thought they had all the fracking frackers?

Intresting meltdown piece from cnn:
"Some of the draft talking points circulated by the White House to the Treasury Department on Monday that were obtained by CNN framed the prospect of a production cut as a “total disaster” and warned that it could be taken as a “hostile act.”

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The US itself can manage the oil cuts but they cannot supply their vassals in Europe at the same time, simply not enough capacity. Most likely, the US will have to impose export restrictions to stop the local prices from skyrocketing.

They are just throwing a tantrum because their EU toy is getting destroyed. Plus they wasted their strategic reserve for nothing. That's what virtue signalling based foreign policy model leads to.
 
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FriedButter

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escobar said:
you have a better source?

If true so much for "limitless friendship"
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Seems the same to me. Not like it’s all that much different then what they have publicly said.

The whole excerpt from the article.

China’s relationship with Russia is also likely to be a discussion point in Brussels this month. In recent conversations with their Chinese counterparts, EU officials say they have detected cracks in Beijing’s support for Russia. Chinese diplomats have removed their talking points blaming NATO for the conflict in Ukraine and made clear that the use of nuclear weapons by Russia would be viewed as totally unacceptable in Beijing. But the Chinese side is also probing for signs of European weakness. “They let us know that our position on Russia comes with a high cost,” one EU official told me. “They point out that the winter could be very cold. They are trying to figure out how serious we are about our policies. This is a test of the resolve of Western democracies.”
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Note the bottom of the article. China is staying neutral and wants to continue sitting on the fence, which they have publicly said and continues to from the start. Otherwise, they wouldn’t have voted to abstain during that UN vote alongside India and Brazil. Also the article mentions, the upcoming talks with China and the EU will have Taiwan as the main topic.
 
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Source - your ass, hence measly $15 billion and also 10% budget cut next year, probably that 5-year plan is dead now.

No one is seeing the so-called evidence except you, because all of that evidence exists in your head full of crap. For example, sorry to disturb you, @Bellum_Romanum do you see evidence that countries are sanctioned just to stop them competing with Arabs? If yes, could you provide it since @pmc can only spam irrelevant crap about how some Arab pooped in Russia, hence Russia is a hyperpower.
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your living in lala land. if you think this Transport system can urgently modified for $15b. there is huge investments in creating city bypasses to enhance the throughput of the system. There is extra redundancy for troop movements and safety enhanced of all the infrastructure that supplies and troops moved. when there is flight restrictions on upto 10 airports than you need much enhanced railway and road network to cope with traffic. All these things are in addition to trade shifting from West.
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xypher said:
It is a crap hole because of weak economy, education, tech, military, and everything. And Russia is unable to defeat that craphole. You are now trying to wank Ukraine because you are embarassed at poor showing of Russians? Lol, expected.
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where you get this information Ukraine is crap hole?. Its a country that still exported engines.
they have debt to GDP less than 60% before the war. Infrastructure that works. some of the largest foreign student population. It is largest country in area that has been invaded in recent history. almost unlimited intelligence support for every target movement.
when area become too big than it much easy to exploit gaps. so first step is reduce the area.
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In 2009, Paris provided the Saudi Arabian National Guard, a powerful largely tribal force separate from the regular army, with Helios imagery to aid SANG's operations against Yemeni Houthi rebels along the kingdom's mountainous southern border.
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xypher said:
So rich that most Russians spend 50%+ of their income just to eat :D There are flights from Dubai to Mtwara and Mpanda (tier 4 cities) in Tanzania, Tanzania hyper rich confirmed by Arabs :D
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Each country get a connection and some of the cities are bringing labor to Arab countries. It is about centrality of Middleast.
the place i showed it is not for bringing labor or any financial.
 
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pmc said:
your living in lala land. if you think this Transport system can urgently modified for $15b. there is huge investments in creating city bypasses to enhance the throughput of the system. There is extra redundancy for troop movements and safety enhanced of all the infrastructure that supplies and troops moved. when there is flight restrictions on upto 10 airports than you need much enhanced railway and road network to cope with traffic. All these things are in addition to trade shifting from West.
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The lala land is already occupied by your shitposting, the overhaul of the transport system is in the 5-year plan that starts from 2023. Provide THE SOURCE for "$75 billion road budget for this year" or you are a liar, is that clear for you? No wobbling around, just provide the raw numbers. If I don't see the clear source for your $75 billion road budget for 2022 statement, then I will cease doing anything other than making fun of you like with Jai Hinds.
pmc said:
where you get this information Ukraine is crap hole?. Its a country that still exported engines.
they have debt to GDP less than 60% before the war. Infrastructure that works. some of the largest foreign student population. It is largest country in area that has been invaded in recent history. almost unlimited intelligence support for every target movement.
when area become too big than it much easy to exploit gaps. so first step is reduce the area.
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Do you have trouble understanding English? Ukraine is a craphole because it has shit economy (even pre-war), corrupt government, dying science & tech, their military is mostly manpower while equipment is lacking even with recent NATO supplies and theirown equipment is just Soviet-era junk, etc.
pmc said:
Each country get a connection and some of the cities are bringing labor to Arab countries. It is about centrality of Middleast.
the place i showed it is not for bringing labor or any financial.
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No, Tanzania is hyper rich because Arabs have routes to small cities there. I bet even the food spending of Tanzanians is similar to Russians, i.e. most spend 50%+ on food. So one more evidence of extreme level of wealth :D
 
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taxiya

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escobar said:
Do those chinese diplomat believe EU will viewed US using nuke against CN in a TW war scenario as totally unacceptable?
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1577539509872476166
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What Chinese diplomats? This twitter post is by an American "thinktank". His claim of Chinese diplomats' saying is from the infamous SCMP. It is a typical crap in, crap out.

I urge you not to pollute this forum by such source. It is a plain propaganda junk for disinformation and provocation. It is as much rubbish as the "China is collapsing every day for the past decades" nonsense.
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