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Realistically if she's allowed to visit as part of a deal, it would be using a commercial airliner and heading there under the "role" of private travel. This would be a massive concession for China to make, but there might be things of equal value that Biden can put up.
And then, China would also not force the airliner to land nor drone strike her in the airport. So she has nothing to worry about.
So the REPUBLICAN declined the offer, he knows and he's just egging his political enemy to commit suicide by PL-12.
Republicans have nothing to lose over this matter. The Democrats will bare the full backlash of anything that happens. They win in either case. It’s in their political and personal interest if Democrats fuck up and start a new crisis.
This scenario is clear as day to anyone with a brain. You don't need an Ivy League education, as most of these US government advisors have, to see it.
I really do not see a fighter escort for this reason. The PLA can't let the US fly armed aircraft into Chinese airspace, so it will have to be shot down. How far into territorial airspace would that happen is up to the PLA, but it would have to happen. With this in mind, what kind of commanding officer wants to send their charge on a possible suicide mission? How does this conversation go?
Commander: Captain, I won't mince words, but there is a good chance you will get shot at. I don't have to tell you the chances of survival if that comes to pass... That being said, your passing won't be in vain because we have a good chance to really really embarrass the Chinese!
Pilot: Embarrass? Do you think it will guarantee Taiwan's freedom?
Commander: There are no guarantees in life.
Pilot: Do you think the PLA will at least demilitarize their posture against Taiwan?
Commander: I don't see why it would.
Pilot: So you are saying my death is the equivalent of throwing a pie in someone's face?
Commander: Not just someone, XI JINPING'S FACE!
Why doesn't China provide for Venezuela, Cuba, Argentina and Nicaragua 2 billions USD each. Or something like it, use your USD debt for something useful. Force the US to invest more in the Americas, and use as leverage with the risk if providing more assistance next year i.e. like an American (continent) Israel?
Create some initiative yourself, instead of constantly pushing back US initiatives.
Create some initiative yourself, instead of constantly pushing back US initiatives.
This has to be the stupidest way to start a World War ever.
Same sh@t here in Greece. Bootlickers on the wheel, they gave USA the right to use every Greek military base for infinite time. They didn't asked a rent at least FFS. In the meantime Greek shipowners are moving half of Russian oil exports. Rents are the highest in EU as per cent to avg salary (about 60%), we have the most expensive electricity in EU(about 150% up from 2 years ago) and the most expensive gasoline, diesel. We are the champions, you loosers! Ah, forgot to say, foreign tourists tested positive of covid are not obliged to stay in quarantine, while Greeks have to stay for 5 days. Sounds offtopic but has certainly to do about democracy and human rights. We are experiencing the dictatorship of the dumbest but i have to be optimistic that a social ka-boom is inevitable. Live your myth in Greece, it's unlivable! Ehm unbelievable i meant
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Well, they wouldn't have started talking about sending military escorts if the Chinese military didn't threaten a military response. They wanted to just fly her there on a plane, have her vomit some words, then come back. Then China raised the stakes and said that the PLA could intervene. To so not look soft, the US had to say their military would protect her flight and that's why there's a standoff for who backs down first. So it is symbolic; it just got bigger than what was originally imagined.
China doesn't want to fight now because the power dynamic is shifting towards China so future is better. The US doesn't want to fight because China is already strong enough with MAD ready but they know that the longer they wait, the worse it gets for them. It's like a guy in a room with a saw and an infected arm: he waits, he's gonna die; if he saws it off, it is unbelievably painful right now, and he could still fail or die from the new wound. If either China or the US had already decided to start a war, this is not how an intelligent country would ramp it up because this war between two nuclear powers needs no ramp up. Surprise all out nuclear blitz is the correct opening move if war is already decided.
For the record, I think if the talk on Thursday doesn't result in the visit being cancelled, Pelosi will land on Taiwan but her flight will be harrassed by the PLAAF and they might do armed flyovers right in the middle of her trip, as she talks in public, right over her head, maybe even load up the chaff compartments with little Chinese flags and dump them all over her. And all sides, PRC, ROC, USA will have orders to not fire unless fired upon.
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