@jwnz bro don't want to offend you BUT your friend is an oxymoron, why destroy something you owned, your friend is right though IF China sink a carrier or two then we can see the reverberation happening not only Taiwan BUT in whole Pacific. This is a proxy war the only victory is to hurt the puppeteer instead of the puppet.The thing is as a friend of mine suggested, China doesn't even need to land a single solider in Taiwan, China just need to destroy all the semiconductor fabs, the major ports and airports, by just using artilleries (and save the DF21 for the USN), and wait for Taiwan to surrender... if a hot war is to eventuate.