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supersnoop

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The funny thing about wargames like these is that they assumed that they are the only ones shooting at the enemy. Have they ever thought about the enemy shooting back?
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Actually they assumed that the PLA would wipeout the leadership in Taiwan with a decapitation strike. Of course somehow this doesn’t cause some kind of widespread breakdown in the structure of the Taiwanese forces which begs the question, why would the PLA do it if it was so pointless?

Also, why kill them and but leave all these Harpoons?

The worst is that they said the Japanese leadership is not wanting to fight, but the PLA attacks them anyway and pulls them in. Is PRC intelligence terrible in this scenario?
 
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Judas!!

Basically, South Korea doesn't want to join Chip 4 Alliance. Funny thing is this piece of news can't be found on the English section of Yonhap, tricky isn't it.
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I thought the South Koreans would join this chip pack.

They are a small country, who is being bullied. If they joined, and said to the Chinese, "We were being bullied!" China would understand, and the CCP will not target them specifically. However, the rules of the market place, may not be as understanding.

Then the news of SMIC was confirmed to have the ability to fab a 7nm using DUV machines from ASML, a feat that only very few companies can do, kind of made this decision rather easy.

No one knows what this chip pack is suppose to do, when it was first proposed.

Now with the news of SMIC at 7nm out in the open, the purpose of this chip pack seems retarded.

:oops:

The Americans gave the South Koreans till the end of August to decide to join, which is a nice way of forcing them to join without being too aggressive.

The Americans were giving them space, but expected the South Koreans to make the right decision.

It is not even the end of July, and this seems all over.

:D
 
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horse said:
I thought the South Koreans would join this chip pack.

They are a small country, who is being bullied. If they joined, and said to the Chinese, "We were being bullied!" China would understand, and the CCP will not target them specifically. However, the rules of the market place, may not be as understanding.

Then the news of SMIC was confirmed to have the ability to fab a 7nm using DUV machines from ASML, a feat that only very few companies can do, kind of made this decision rather easy.

No one knows what this chip pack is suppose to do, when it was first proposed.

Now with the news of SMIC at 7nm out in the open, the purpose of this chip pack seems retarded.

:oops:

The Americans gave the South Koreans till the end of August to decide to join, which is a nice way of forcing them to join without being too aggressive.

The Americans were giving them space, but expected the South Koreans to make the right decision.

It is not even the end of July, and this seems all over.

:D
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Koreans have been around the block, seen some shit in their time. They know as soon as Intel and co get their fabs running smooth in mainland US they're going to get that Huawei treatment.

That might be unavoidable if US was still the undisputed hegemon, but these days after a stern warning by Old Man Hu and MFA you have half the country trying to talk Pelosi into not going, so...
 
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ansy1968

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horse said:
I thought the South Koreans would join this chip pack.

They are a small country, who is being bullied. If they joined, and said to the Chinese, "We were being bullied!" China would understand, and the CCP will not target them specifically. However, the rules of the market place, may not be as understanding.

Then the news of SMIC was confirmed to have the ability to fab a 7nm using DUV machines from ASML, a feat that only very few companies can do, kind of made this decision rather easy.

No one knows what this chip pack is suppose to do, when it was first proposed.

Now with the news of SMIC at 7nm out in the open, the purpose of this chip pack seems retarded.

:oops:

The Americans gave the South Koreans till the end of August to decide to join, which is a nice way of forcing them to join without being too aggressive.

The Americans were giving them space, but expected the South Koreans to make the right decision.

It is not even the end of July, and this seems all over.

:D
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@horse bro here is my thinking, they had a hard time competing against TSMC, 5nm and 3nm is a niche market and we see Samsung 5nm Exynos are having yield problems and have to manipulate the result to look good. Now that the US is restricting TSMC sales to Huawei and other Chinese tech company that's a potential large customers. You know what I mean, 14nm and above will be commoditized by SMIC and other Chinese FAB so why not jump on the opportunity...lol we are surely living in interesting times.
 
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Sometimes we're dealing with this:
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Yes it's a serious thing, not a joke. This is on page 312 of their report.
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The thing is as a friend of mine suggested, China doesn't even need to land a single solider in Taiwan, China just needs to destroy all the semiconductor fabs, the major ports and airports, by just using artilleries (and save the DF21 for the USN), and wait for Taiwan to surrender... if a hot war is to eventuate.
 
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supersnoop

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horse said:
No one knows what this chip pack is suppose to do, when it was first proposed.
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I think you hit the nail on the head here. This seems like a US give a group a cool name and hammer out the details later idea. Just like the FAUKUS bigly alliance…

What submarine models? What timeline? What costs? We will figure it out soon, just pay the frogs in the meantime!

Chip 4, US will call the shots. Stop building factories in China, limit exports to China, you figure out those revenue shortfalls yourself!
 
horse

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ansy1968 said:
@horse bro here is my thinking, they had a hard time competing against TSMC, 5nm and 3nm is a niche market and we see Samsung 5nm Exynos are having yield problems and have to manipulate the result to look good. Now that the US is restricting TSMC sales to Huawei and other Chinese tech company that's a potential large customers. You know what I mean, 14nm and above will be commoditized by SMIC and other Chinese FAB so why not jump on the opportunity...lol we are surely living in interesting times.
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Yeah brother, we live in interesting times. That weird luv triangle definitely proofs that.

It is the mixed messages, that makes the South Koreans always interesting.

Here was the most pro-US leader in South Korea in maybe a couple or few generations.

On the very first major decision under his leadership, South Korea says, "Nyet!"

:oops::D:p

Maybe Yoon did not like the way Brandon shook his hand. Like he did not want to shake it.

The South Koreans are volatile. If they take offense to what you may or may not have done, then expect something in return.

China has the right policy for Korea. Just leave them alone.

:)
 
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