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4Runner

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4Runner said:
That is the ultimate responsibility of being a superpower. No matter how much they hate each other, they have to do what they need to do as superpowers, even though it means acting sometimes. Just imagine superpowers stop talking......I am not sure if you have anything in a 401K or a stock market. Even a house for that matter. Cold war is by nature deflationary. I am not saying I am glad seeing acting. I am just saying people at level gotta do what they have to do.
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From the initial reporting of the Xi-Biden meeting, this was indeed a very important meeting in my book. Basically Xi told Biden that what your team has been doing since their last meeting is antithesis to Chinese strategic aims and is also violating their agreement of the last call. Biden simply was taking Xi's temperature on his support to Putin.

My takeaway is that US is not going to push China to a point of no return while China is trying to navigate in the middle. China is not going to move all-in, which is the ultimate nightmare of US. So on that note, both won, for now.
 
AssassinsMace

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Brush aside all the boisterous talk of a united West as if that weren't the case before. Where's all this magical money, because everything costs money, that's suppose to show up when this supposedly happens to make the West think they can act like they never did before? It doesn't show up. It's just words because they still have no money but it'll in fact cost them more money in the end. That's why they're so desperate to get China on board on their narrative. They threaten to do to China what they're doing to Russia but they'll end being hurt more by that action. Trump's trade war against China is why the West is suffering its worst inflation since WWII. The Western capitalist system is built on making maximum profits and more than they did before. The whole system of outsourcing is about making that happen by exploiting the cheapest labor and resources available around the world. It's so delicate that even talk and rumors can send shock waves throughout that system and it'll cost them money. Now they think they can threaten China? China's modern existence means they have less power and money in the world now. The media made it out that this Biden-Xi call, that came about because of the recent Rome meeting, was all so Biden can threaten and warn Xi. Really? China didn't have to have this meeting in the first place. I'm sure it was much more diplomatic than the Western media made it because I'm sure Biden had to discuss China's interests in exchange for cooperation. But of course the media has to make it look like the US is in control and leading the world because that's the overall narrative they're putting out there.

The Ukrainian refugee crisis is far worse than the Syrian one during Obama's term in office. Notice no rhetoric or hostilities in the West towards them like when all those Middle East and North Africans travelled on foot and across the Mediterranean on rubber dinghies to Europe? All those refugees were going to rape women in the countries they settled in. No calls for China to take in Ukrainian refugees. Is it because they're... white? Early on they were already saying it's not because they're white because they knew it was because they're white. They're upset that China doesn't see the situation as serious as the West does. What does reporting on a women in a bomb shelter playing the violin do? Does it mean when non-white refugees that don't have a woman playing the violin in a bomb shelter are not as important? That's the romanticism they do for themselves to make people care that they don't do for others because they don't care especially when they're the Russia to whatever country they occupied and attacked militarily for no good reason.

I've talked about in this forum that it's not about human rights and democracy that makes them hate China. It's all about the interpretation of reality why they hate China. If you're interpreting reality to others, it means you have power and control over others. And look how angry they get that China doesn't follow their narrative. Why? Because then China is not spending its time and resources on what Westerners think is important in the world so it doesn't cost them and then they get all the power in the end? It's like when there was the debate on which was better... China's investment or Western aid into underdeveloped countries. It was to a point where Hollywood celebrities and their "charities" got into the debate where they thought it would be better if China gave the money they invested to them to make sure it was responsibly spent and got to where it was needed. But in the end it was all about publicity for themselves culminating to an award presented to them taking all the credit when all the money they got was from donations and not one cent of their own money was used. That's what they want internationally. You do all the work. They get all the credit, money, and power. The excuses have only changed. The reasons are the same from hundreds of years ago.
 
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Interesting. Definitely there was something that Yang and Sullivan agreed on Monday. I guess US will de-escalate anti-China campaigns in return for China's restraints on aiding Russia.
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I think you need to get it in your head that China is America's number one adversary and the only way she can placate the Washington blob is breaking herself into 10 or 20 democratic countries each controlled from Washington.

Russia is just a small distraction which will be dealt with either through an agreement or a military victory in Ukraine.

America will not stop trying to contain China incase Beijing stabs Moscow in the back.
 
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China isn’t going to support the US. The global times article makes that clear. Russia is a “strategic asset” and no amount of copium is going to change that. Biden is lying again about the Taiwan issue in the readout.

The President reiterated that U.S. policy on Taiwan has not changed, and emphasized that the United States continues to oppose any unilateral changes to the status quo.

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Like a week ago, congress passed a bill banning funding of “incorrect maps of Taiwan.” They purposefully left the wording like that to be open minded but it’s obvious what they are trying to do. Blinky boy is doing the same thing as well. Biden says this but behind the scenes they do the opposite.
 
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I had my political views completely shaken up a yearish ago, and now full on left, can't wait for Xi or whoever next chinese leader to press that communism button.
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IMO, turning full left is politically impossible for PRC. Xi currently doesn't have overwhelming power or influence to do so. All you need is just go read the third CCP historical resolution and compare its content to first (issued by Mao) and second (issued by Deng).

In Mao's resolution, Mao signified his full consolidation of power by denouncing Wang ming's Moscow-aligned path and adopted communism to the conditions of china. In Deng's resolution, he signified his complete ascension by essentially calling out Mao's mistake of culture revolution. Soon after, Deng started to open up china and began to make "capitalistic/market" reforms, thus turning PRC to the right. Xi achieved a politically significant feat by passing a third historical resolution which means he's indeed more powerful than Jiang and Hu. However, the words of Xi's resolution are much milder when it comes to describing the policies of his predecessors. Xi didn't covertly denounce any previous CCP leaders. In Xi's own published explanation of the third historical resolution, he reaffirmed the conclusions and relevance of first and second historical resolutions. How possibly can PRC make turn towards full left without at least politically denouncing Deng's opening up (rightist) policy?
 
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Topazchen said:
I think you need to get it in your head that China is America's number one adversary and the only way she can placate the Washington blob is breaking herself into 10 or 20 democratic countries each controlled from Washington.

Russia is just a small distraction which will be dealt with either through an agreement or a military victory in Ukraine.

America will not stop trying to contain China incase Beijing stabs Moscow in the back.
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Yeah, but, that is just a fairy tale.

Two things seriously awry with that assessment.

One is reality. China and ASEAN along with others including US treaty allies, signed the biggest trade deal in history, creating the largest block in the history of the world. Hauwei banned in only eight countries in the world. China trade volumes at record levels and growing. The Chinese currency the RMB continues to advance in the world trading system. China can offer alternatives to Western tech, first time in a few hundred years we can say that. Some areas of tech China actually leads. China has fileded hypersonic weapons, a feat the US still cannot do. China has put a lot of emphasis on the global south via the BRI, which is going well. So on and so forth, blah blah blah. If this is containment of China, which obviously it is not, it is just a fairy tale. Or bad propaganda.

Two is the Chinese mentality. China is the Middle Kingdom. That meant throughout Chinese history, others wanted something, or wanted a piece of China. So they want a piece of China? So what? Come and get it. This time China has modern weapons and will kill everybody. If that is what they want, that is what they are going to get. Unlike some other countries, official China-dom, they do not fool around.

If they want to contain China, then bring it on.

It would be a serious mistake for China to take that seriously. It is simply not creditable.

After all, those guys could not even contain the Taliban from overrunning the country.

Remember, China is the Middle Kingdom. We did not live in paranoia all these thousands and thousands of years.

The Russians are paranoid. The Americans are always paranoid. And China? Both paranoids want China to be on their side regarding that war in Europe.

What will China do? I don't know. China does not have that much experience with true paranoia.

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