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Good opinion piece, some interesting quotes:



Rupa actually has a lot of decent neutral articles about India, China, and Asia.
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This Rupa chick literally calls China a hostile rising power... Throwing China under the bus to make a "point" against Western imperialism and justifying India's abstention against Russia.
India is in the unenviable position of facing territorial threats from a rising and hostile China to its east and an antagonistic and nuclear-armed Pakistan to its west, and very few allies nearby. As a regional power, India has no choice but to balance its historical friendship with Russia and its strengthening ties with the United States.
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Rupa can point out Western hypocrisy without accusing China as a hostile rising power justifying Indian abstenation at UNGA. Just say India is traditionally non-aligned movement, no need to throw China under the bus to score points against the West.
 
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India should have just accepted Chinese BRI investment. The Chinese would dump all the useless dollars they have into rebuilding the whole place. The notion China is an opponent is, I think, absurd. Who would invade through the Himalayas? And the other possible entry point is basically a wasteland where you would see the other side a long time before they hit you.
I understand Indian issues with Pakistan and the Chinese-Pakistan alliance. But do you think they somehow had no problem with US-Pakistan alliance? Why do you think the Indians are unwilling to let go of connections to Russia? Especially after the US made them break relations with Iran, their natural ally in the region, where are they supposed to get their energy from? Seriously...

I expect US to sign Iran deal pretty soon in an attempt to isolate Russia. And Iran has the only viable alternative supply to Russian oil anyway. The rest is all talk. Once the US gets Iran back into its sphere of influence then they will try to pull India from Russia. And Pakistan did well to put its chips on Chinese side and making overtures to Russia because otherwise they would risk being isolated.
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The West sanctioned RT precisely because they were quite effective. RT gave a platform for dissenting voices in the West to speak out, not just those aligned with Russian interests, and that is why they had to be shut down. Other Western news platforms typically regurgitate AP/Reuters/AFP news bulletins which is why I for the most part just ignore them and directly read the news bulletins.
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Yes, let us not forget the US under Trump tried to steal Tiktok and its algorithms when Tiktok was beating instagram and US social media services at their own game.
 
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gelgoog said:
The West sanctioned RT precisely because they were quite effective. RT gave a platform for dissenting voices in the West to speak out, not just those aligned with Russian interests, and that is why they had to be shut down. Other Western news platforms typically regurgitate AP/Reuters/AFP news bulletins which is why I for the most part just ignore them and directly read the news bulletins.


They claimed the Russians were idiots for testing the disconnection of Russia from the rest of the Internet a couple years back to see if it .RU would hold out. That it was preparation for Russia putting their own version of Great Firewall up. Guess what happened just yesterday.
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The Russians remember how the US disconnected Syria from the Internet.


Facebook has a pitifully small share in Russia where VKontakte is much more popular.
Yandex is also more popular there than Google is.
YouTube is popular in Russia but there are alternative services to that too.


If they get popular they will likely get blocked. But yes I think this needs to happen since like it or not English is the most widely spoken language in the world today and ignoring that is self-defeating.
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RT are still good but their prime was 10-15 years ago. RT UK was one of the best places of investigative journalism. They've declined in the social media age but a number of prominent politicians still appear on it.

RT US wasn't anywhere near as successful. Maybe because Americans are more naturally russophobic, or there isn't as big an anti-war movement in the US.
gelgoog said:
India should have just accepted Chinese BRI investment. The Chinese would dump all the useless dollars they have into rebuilding the whole place. The notion China is an opponent is, I think, absurd. Who would invade through the Himalayas? And the other possible entry point is basically a wasteland where you would see the other side a long time before they hit you.
I understand Indian issues with Pakistan and the Chinese-Pakistan alliance. But do you think they somehow had no problem with US-Pakistan alliance? Why do you think the Indians are unwilling to let go of connections to Russia? Especially after the US made them break relations with Iran, their natural ally in the region, where are they supposed to get their energy from? Seriously...

I expect US to sign Iran deal pretty soon in an attempt to isolate Russia. And Iran has the only viable alternative supply to Russian oil anyway. The rest is all talk. Once the US gets Iran back into its sphere of influence then they will try to pull India from Russia. And Pakistan did well to put its chips on Chinese side and making overtures to Russia because otherwise they would risk being isolated.
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I think one good outcome of this war could be that India, China and Pakistan may actually sit down together and sort out their problems. They all stem from colonialism.

We may need a new name for this block, especially when Kim Jong-Un reunites Korea and also joins.

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Abominable said:
RT are still good but their prime was 10-15 years ago. RT UK was one of the best places of investigative journalism. They've declined in the social media age but a number of prominent politicians still appear on it.

RT US wasn't anywhere near as successful. Maybe because Americans are more naturally russophobic, or there isn't as big an anti-war movement in the US.

I think one good outcome of this war could be that India, China and Pakistan may actually sit down together and sort out their problems. They all stem from colonialism.

We may need a new name for this block, especially when Kim Jong-Un reunites Korea and also joins.

PRICK...
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Kim Jong-Un just may use this chance to do something.
 
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Igor Strelkov - Russian Political Analyst, Former Commander of Donetsk Military Force being interviewed by CGTN - published on 05 March 2022:

EU mentioned its willingness to consider Ukraine's EU membership application first, then Ukraine immediately submitted the application. This is just another way to encourage the Ukrainian leadership to keep the war going for as long as possible.

Both the West and EU have no illusions about Ukraine's victory in this war. However, their stake is not on helping Ukraine's victory over Russia but on dragging the war on. This war and the sanctions will bring great difficulties to the Russian economy, causing internal instability, even confusion on the territory of Russia. This is what their calculation is based on.

For this, the war must continue as long as possible. And the Ukrainian troops must fight with the hope that their allies are about to come. That is what all these statements and negotiations are aimed at. There will be no practical result, I think. No one will risk war with the Russia as long as it has nuclear weapons.

 
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The Canadian regime is now grounding planes because Russian civilians are flying on them. This is a Western war on the Russian people as a whole, including Russian civilians who have nothing to do with their government

Canada's state media outlet CBC admitted that the Russians whose plane was grounded by the Canadian regime are *civilians*, not Russian government officials

Western so-called "democracies" are basically making it a crime to be Russian

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1499587753465499659

"are *civilians*, not Russian government officials"

So, if they are the Russian government officials then they are more eligible for detention??? :rolleyes:

These actions were planned long ago & agreed upon by USA & its vassals; they've been using them to threaten Russia to not react to their NATO expansion - which itself is intended to cripple Russia's military dominance in the Black Sea region &, Eastern Mediterranean the Levant.

The endgame is to free US to tackle China. Well, the Bear has reacted, & China is watching & learning.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1499712175027466241

Seeing the case in Canada, no wonder that Russia needed to dispatch a special flight just to pick up her diplomats from USA

MOSCOW. March 5 (Interfax) - A Rossiya Special Flight Squadron flight is en route to Washington to collect the Russian diplomats declared personae non grata, rather than for "contacts with the Americans," Russian Foreign Ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova said.

Zakharova said on her Telegram channel on Saturday that some people have already mistaken the Rossiya Special Flight Squadron flight, which is now en route from St. Petersburg to Washington, for "Russians' fleeing" and "an attempt by Moscow to contact the Americans."

"I will disappoint you. This plane will bring back home the Russian diplomats whom the Government of the United States has declared personae non grata," she said.

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The EU will inherit a broken west Ukraine, if I were a Ukrainian I would look really closely how well the EU has managed Greece.
Wondering if Russia will blow up some last civilian infrastructures in western Ukraine after leaving the country as a farewell gift to Europe.

Edit: Why not let the russians go what will they do place them in the covid containment camps or so.
 
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windsclouds2030 said:
The Canadian regime is now grounding planes because Russian civilians are flying on them. This is a Western war on the Russian people as a whole, including Russian civilians who have nothing to do with their government

Canada's state media outlet CBC admitted that the Russians whose plane was grounded by the Canadian regime are *civilians*, not Russian government officials

Western so-called "democracies" are basically making it a crime to be Russian

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1499587753465499659

"are *civilians*, not Russian government officials"

So, if they are the Russian government officials then they are more eligible for detention??? :rolleyes:

These actions were planned long ago & agreed upon by USA & its vassals; they've been using them to threaten Russia to not react to their NATO expansion - which itself is intended to cripple Russia's military dominance in the Black Sea region &, Eastern Mediterranean the Levant.

The endgame is to free US to tackle China. Well, the Bear has reacted, & China is watching & learning.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1499712175027466241

Seeing the case in Canada, no wonder that Russia needed to dispatch a special flight just to pick up her diplomats from USA

MOSCOW. March 5 (Interfax) - A Rossiya Special Flight Squadron flight is en route to Washington to collect the Russian diplomats declared personae non grata, rather than for "contacts with the Americans," Russian Foreign Ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova said.

Zakharova said on her Telegram channel on Saturday that some people have already mistaken the Rossiya Special Flight Squadron flight, which is now en route from St. Petersburg to Washington, for "Russians' fleeing" and "an attempt by Moscow to contact the Americans."

"I will disappoint you. This plane will bring back home the Russian diplomats whom the Government of the United States has declared personae non grata," she said.

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To be fair ,I'm impressed by the West having amassed so many pressure points and leverage over the economies of Russia and much of the global south.

Things we thought were apolitical like sports and open source projects have been captured by the outrage machine .

If Russia ,China and the rest dont learn from this and develop practically all alternatives ,then the West deserves to be our overlord for the next 1000 years .
 
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