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xypher

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when Computers and actual machines are western. than? i am not going into Military power bases and all the Air traffic control.
Opec policy is good for stock markets.
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OPEC already slapped the West with oil embargoes in the past when the Western influence on them was far more powerful. Your further fantasies are not of interest to me.
just some thing is not published it does not mean it does not exist. i gave you a hint in a link of road project that can cost $30b to $80b.
those mountains are too important for computers.
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The first assertion is true but does not work in your case - pulling something out of your head does not mean it exists in reality, sorry.

Cool, you threw some random article about a Soviet engineer that tells some stories about mountain climbing.
You conveniently ignore the expenditure part.
Saudi/Norway/Hong Kong. they are non-industrial/R&D countries that cannot even produce a toilet paper without external help all they do is buy/sell stocks and reside in virtual world.
Saudi Arabia spends more than Russia in terms of GDP on the military, their government spending was roughly the same as Russia's in 2017 despite the GDP being 2.5x smaller. Find new excuses.
these people have real experience of software behind Germanic systems and machines.
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Nah, Russian and German IT industries are crap. As I've said, one single paper from MSRA has more citations than any papers produced by Russian & German R&D centers on deep learning.
It has very little to do without outside world. largest does not mean best or control over supply chains. they are now teaching nuclear power so they can operate future plants. foundation is still Russian engineering.
Russian heavy machinery is crap and not market competitive, cope harder. Russia has zero control over supply chains in heavy machinery. Russia is strong in nuclear tech but that's not related to all other fields, so cherry-picking one example is not going to help you, sorry.
Korean companies will invest there because they invest big in Russia and that is connected to other stans. that route was used previously by Nato.
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Korean investment into Russia is tiny compared to its investment in other Asian countries, including ASEAN. Korea can invest into CA without Russia as it was noted, they could not even prevent Uzbekistan from hosting a US military base on their soil. Some random article again.

i am pretty sure. without Russia. Middleast behavior will change. they will price gouge Asia and fund West.
too high prices benefit Russia as they can produce so much more that Arabs get terrified.
how long i am keep repeating this point? it is like going in circles.
I am pretty sure not - there, I countered your imagination with mine. You will keep repeating your fantasies and I will keep ridiculing you for it until you provide sources. Since these sources do not exist and it is just your imagination trying to puff Russia up, you may have to continue doing that for quite some time.
 

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If you look at the growth of the Russian Federation's GDP in PPP adjusted terms it does not look nearly as bad as that.
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It's bad no matter how you spin it. Russian GDP growth over the 2015-2019 period averaged at ~1% a year. It is a bad number even for developed countries, more so for developing ones like Russia. Nominal terms still matter when it comes down to buying hard customer goods like automobiles, electronics, etc. because Russia has to import them, and in that regard, average Russian salaries in USD have actually declined since 2014.

If China had such atrocious showings, we would be hearing about "collapse" every nanosecond. I mean, Western media still does that even with 8.1% growth and record FDI while WH even goes as far as to lie about them outgrowing China by counting their inflation as growth.
 

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After so many EU talks about providing an alternative to the BRI in Africa ...
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Expected nothing less from a paper tiger. Inb4 PMC will say that it is because ™Germanic investment™ works differently from all others and ackshually they already outcompeted BRI in shadows, then sends a photo of a random African (-American) driving Volkswagen.
 

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So is this the "position of strength" I've been hearing so much about?

Kennedy would be rolling in his grave if he saw this.
I would wait until it is repeated by other media sources, daily mail is a tabloid. They were just weighing on this decision before that but it contained demands to reciprocally check Russian missile sites which should be a no-no for Russia if they are trying to pursue a permanent solution. As we know, the US is not reliable and can easily backtrack when convenient.
 

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LOL! George Soros, the devil himself is making an epic rant about Xi Jinping and China. That means China's housecleaning of the NED, Open Society, and all those CIA front NGOs have been successful. The air in China and HK is cleaner now. No more choking on democrazy pollution. Only Taiwan remains to be cleaned of their democrazy smog.
This Soros guy is one of the KEY known public faces (along with Gates, Fauci, Schwab, etc -- miss not the member of the Rothschild Clan with their ESG programs) of the globalist cabals running the WEF (Davos Club) with its Great Reset, Agenda 2030, Climate Change, Build Back Better, CBDC (Central Bank Digital Currency) programs... in coordination with BIS, IMF, ECB, FED, EC... more tightened controls upon mankind...

Soros might likely vent his huge frustration on Xi at the conservative think tank Hudson Institute... after all the delicate virus thing, China remains stable while its effects on the West (US+EU+5 eyes) are disastrous... China also put on rein those private Big Tech companies in the last sweep of reorganizing its economy, among others affected the accesses by the Wall Street bankers and financiers into the Big Tech... incurred heavy losses to some parties in the west incl. Soros. Some analysts had opined that WEF will terminate CV19 program and get back to Climate Change programs for soliciting grand global control while anticipating economic/financial collapse in the west.
 

BlackWindMnt

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Thats all nice and well but they are only 400 million or so people, let me guess those standards will be the same standards the US will handle. So that makes it a potential 800 million citizen market. Counting the Anglo germanic peoples of the world.

But what if China with BRI, RCEP and SCO start their own standards commission that would be a multiple billion citizen market. Its a minimal effect or maybe even a losing set to make. And if i'm not mistaken the US gutted japan high tech sector this way by changing high tech standards with South Korean manufacturers but i could be mistaken on that.
 

Temstar

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I would wait until it is repeated by other media sources, daily mail is a tabloid. They were just weighing on this decision before that but it contained demands to reciprocally check Russian missile sites which should be a no-no for Russia if they are trying to pursue a permanent solution. As we know, the US is not reliable and can easily backtrack when convenient.
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The point isn't actually if this deal goes through or not, the point is that US is offering this deal at all. If you're Romania or Poland how would you feel upon seeing this news? Wouldn't you feel a bit betrayed?
 

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The point isn't actually if this deal goes through or not, the point is that US is offering this deal at all. If you're Romania or Poland how would you feel upon seeing this news? Wouldn't you feel a bit betrayed?
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, both Romania and Poland are open to that idea if they are given the ability to reciprocally check Russian military installations near their border:
Romania maintains it has an open invitation for Russian officials to visit its facility if the requirement of reciprocity is met. An official familiar with Poland’s stance told Bloomberg the country could also agree to anti-missile checks by Russia in return for inspections in the sensitive enclave of Kaliningrad, which borders Poland.
I think the important part here is that this actually does not solve the Russian concerns at all (plus gives additional intel on Russian missile sites to NATO) because missile systems could be transferred to these sites at any time. However, it DOES give a way out for Russia to stop the escalation while saving face, I think that's why it is being discussed. We will see whether Putin is adamant on his stance or is going to take the exit offer.
 
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windsclouds2030

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Expected nothing less from a paper tiger. Inb4 PMC will say that it is because ™Germanic investment™ works differently from all others and ackshually they already outcompeted BRI in shadows, then sends a photo of a random African (-American) driving Volkswagen.
Let's see whether the economy of Germany is big and strong enough to withstand the big hole effects of the huge spenders (PIGS + France) in the Eurozone financed by ECB, Germany is the largest contributor of the ECB capital.

The ECB, which through monetary inflation, embarked on a policy of transferring wealth from fiscally responsible member states to the spendthrift PIGS and France. The consequences of these policies are that the spendthrifts are now ensnared in irreversible debt traps.

The Repo Crisis in New York in September 2019 was an important advance warning of the fragility of the Eurozone’s monetary and banking system. A look at the condition of the major Eurozone global systemically important banks (G-SIBs) in Table A, explains why.

The Eurozone’s debt position pitches the entire global financial and economic system further towards a debt crisis than generally realised. Particularly for Greece, Italy, France, Belgium, Portugal, and Spain in that order of indebtedness, the problem is most acute. They only survive because the ECB ensures they can pay their bills by funding them totally through inflation of the quantity of euros in circulation. The ECB’s entire purpose has become to transfer wealth from the more fiscally prudent member states to the spendthrifts by debasing the currency.

As for the euro’s future, it seems unlikely that the ECB has the capability of dealing with the crisis that will unfold. It has cheated the NORTHERN STATES, particularly Germany, the Netherlands, Finland, Ireland, the Czech Republic, and Luxembourg to the benefit of spendthrifts, particularly the political heavyweights of France, Italy and Spain. Read further
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